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Well arc, after considerable thought, and being prompted to make the pics before this evenings event, I would list them as follows:

Orange Bowl- Florida
Rose Bowl- Miami
Galleryfurniture.com Bowl- Texas AM
New Orleans Bowl- Colorado St.
Sun Bowl- Purdue
Cotton Bowl- Oklahoma
Holiday Bowl- Texas
Liberty Bowl- BYU
Citrus Bowl- Tennessee
Music City Bowl- Georgia
Motor City Bowl- Cincinnati
Silicon Valley Bowl- Fresno St.
Outback Bowl- S. Carolina
Humanitarian Bowl- Clemson
Seattle Bowl- Stanford
Sugar Bowl- Illinois
Gator Bowl- Fla. St.
Tangerine Bowl- N.C. St.
GMAC Bowl- Marshall
Alamo Bowl- Iowa
Peach Bowl- Auburn
Independence Bowl- Iowa State
Fiesta Bowl- Oregon
Insight.com Bowl- Syracuse
Las Vegas Bowl- USC
Blue-Grey- Grey"
chili36
9:20:12 AM
12/18/01

Here's my guess

Orange Bowl- Florida
Rose Bowl- Miami
Galleryfurniture.com Bowl- Texas AM
New Orleans Bowl- Colorado St.
Sun Bowl- Washington St.
Cotton Bowl- Oklahoma
Holiday Bowl- Texas
Liberty Bowl- Louisville
Citrus Bowl- Tennessee
Music City Bowl- Georgia
Motor City Bowl- Cincinnati
Silicon Valley Bowl- Fresno St.
Outback Bowl- S. Carolina
Humanitarian Bowl- Clemson
Seattle Bowl- Stanford
Sugar Bowl- LSU
Gator Bowl- Tech
Tangerine Bowl- N.C. St.
GMAC Bowl- Marshall
Alamo Bowl- Iowa
Peach Bowl- Carolina
Independence Bowl- BAMA
Fiesta Bowl- Oregon
Insight.com Bowl- Syracuse
Las Vegas Bowl- USC
Blue-Grey- Grey""
dayhiker
9:29:00 AM
12/18/01

Oh no! At least I had a fifty-fifty shot before. My chances of paying penance are increasing. You guys are gonna remember that I was just funnin' with that obnoxious routine, right?...right?
arclite
11:37:47 AM
12/18/01

sure arc, I remember, and what was that routine about "Gator bait"...
chili36
11:40:07 AM
12/18/01

I remember, in spite of taking myself too seriously.
dayhiker
11:43:22 AM
12/18/01

Oh man, this is gonna get real ugly if I lose.

Please God...please God...
arclite
2:48:23 PM
12/18/01

You bet, do you rememer piling on when you played smear to ____ when you were young.
dayhiker
2:57:31 PM
12/18/01

Just under the wire, here are the winning picks:

Cotton - OKLA
Gallery - TX A&M
Liberty - BYU
Seattle - Stanford
Holiday - TX
Fiesta - OR
Peach - Auburn
Gator - FSU
Insight - Syracuse
Motor City - Toledo
Independence - 'Bama
Vegas - Utah
Music - Gawja
Sun - WA St.
GMAC - Marshall
Rose - Miami
Orange - FL
Sugar - LSU
New Orleans - CSU
Tangerine - Pitt
Alamo - IA
Human - Clemson
Silicon - Fresno St.
Outback - SC
Citrus - TN
Blue/Grey - Blue
Max
5:21:16 PM
12/18/01

SUCKERS!!!
Thankyou for making my day, boys! I will love it when you post on my thread. All the other TT'ers will wonder why you worship me, but we will know it is because I am a Football God!
Dunadan
8:43:49 PM
12/18/01

Arc is a big meany!
Hey, Mr Florida architect, Gator Bait, 6' 5", backpacking, New Jersey transplant. I don't take myself seriously, why should I take you seriously? I have not been offended by anything you have posted and I enjoy seeing some passion from a diehard fan.
Let the games begin!!!!
Dunadan
8:49:42 PM
12/18/01

I'm a Prayin' Fool
Actually, I'm only 6'-1", Dunadan. I make up for my short stature by weighing 212. Not much fat except between the ears. I've always been a fast runner.

I may have need of that skill if my horses don't come through. I have a feeling that if you win this thing, Dunadan, you may reduce me to 1'-6" and 12lbs with your god-like powers. Dayhiker is going to sanction me but good if he wins, because he has no sense of humor about these things. Chili is going to throw me to the blue tick hounds. But Max is going to be cool. Yeah, I won't mind losing to Max. He has forgivin the fact that I started getting REALLY obnoxious after his post. Good ol' Max.
arclite
5:55:19 AM
12/19/01

STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!!!
Football kills.






This has been paid for by all the Monopoly Hotel Owners Association.
Splash
6:29:16 AM
12/19/01

arclite's from Jersey? Well that explains it. I thought he was just a loud mouthed, know it all Gator fan. Now I know he's just a damn Yankee. Nothing you said bothers me now.
dayhiker
7:55:28 AM
12/19/01

That's right, dayhiker, been here 25 years now. The difference between Yankee and Damn Yankee is that the Damn Yankee moves down here to stay. I decided to stay because I just can't get enough of ya'lls southern hospitality.
arclite
8:38:41 AM
12/19/01

The grits. . . don't forget the grits.
Splash
8:46:57 AM
12/19/01

Cheese grits, boiled peanuts, and the best barbeque on the planet, Splash.
arclite
8:52:38 AM
12/19/01

I use butter, salt and pepper, but are cheese grits made with cheddar cheese, or powdered cheese stuff?
Splash
8:57:37 AM
12/19/01

POWDERED CHEESE STUFF? Them's fightin' words, Splash. No self respecting grit would allow itself to be covered with powdered cheese stuff.

Of course there are the other grits, "Guys Raised In The South." Are those the grits you were refering too, Splash?
arclite
9:17:19 AM
12/19/01

Nahh, that's a new one on me, the acronym. The barbecue just has never been duplicated up this way. They have tried, but it doesn't happen.
Splash
9:46:34 AM
12/19/01

SEE YA!

Hope everyone has a good holiday. I'm off to NJ to visit the relatives. Be back 12/28. I hope Santa brings me some great big bowl victories.

Happy Holidays all.
arclite
2:05:42 PM
12/19/01

The center of the BBQ universe
You haven't eaten barbeque until you have been to Kansas City. Stop by anytime, and I'll treat you to a slab of the real stuff.
Dunadan
6:18:21 PM
12/19/01

Memphis,,,,the BBQ capitol of the world!!!
chili36
8:30:05 PM
12/19/01

OK, I won't argue with Memphis BBQ or many BBQ joints in Texas.
How about that Thundering Herd??? They almost didn't pull through for me. 64-61. I heard that is the highest scoring bowl game in history. I hope so.
How is everyone doing so far?
Dunadan
9:55:39 PM
12/20/01

Two games two winners, neither of high point value, though. I'm starting to get heartburn about picking Oregon over Colorado for 21 points. That's a long shot and with this competition, I feel like I need to hit 26 through 19 or 20. If I bomb, I'll just blame it on finals. Yeah, that's the ticket.
Max
10:05:07 PM
12/20/01

Yeah, Max, I was wondering why you had the Duck-Buff game so high on your list. That could be one of the more interesting games.
Dunadan
10:21:38 PM
12/20/01

Colorado St came through with 24 big points for the Dunadan. Marshall only gained 1 for me.
Co St won by a landslide. Marshall barely won.
Did someone say, football God?
Dunadan
10:34:27 PM
12/20/01

Lots of football yet to be played.
Max
10:37:37 PM
12/20/01

GO DUCKS! I may have to learn their fight song...
Max
10:40:33 PM
12/20/01

It sounds like Donald singing
Yeah, there's a lot of football left, but like they say in football, momentum, baby, momentum.
Dunadan
10:43:02 PM
12/20/01

can't argue with that
Max
11:02:53 PM
12/20/01

Who picked Pitt over NC St? Only gained 2 points off of that.
Dunadan
6:11:03 PM
12/21/01

Sliding off the screen
Just helping keep the thread from dropping off the edge.
How is everyone doing so far?
Dunadan
2:31:27 PM
12/24/01

Ive said this before....
and ill say it again....

FOOTBALL SUCKS!!!!!!!!
vyxtryx
10:21:53 AM
12/26/01

Isn't "vyxtryx" Roman numerals for "football"?
nigal
10:40:33 AM
12/26/01

Pac 10 is killing me
What the heck is USC up to? I didn't know they were the patsy team this year. I thought they would be a sure thing over Utah.
Football God with feet of clay.
Dunadan
9:37:34 PM
12/26/01

BACK from the land of the obnoxious sports fan (athough Cleveland may hold that distinction now). Whuzzup wid Chili and Dayhiker? I was looking at our bowl orders as my teams were going down the toilet over the holiday. A lot of the fun (and difficulty) of this format was choosing the order of the games. Chili and dayhiker chose my order, Dunadan. I must be the football god, I have followers. God of the underworld is about it. They're following me into football hell.

Let's spice this baby up! Dayhiker, I met a guy in the airport up north. He was a Bama grad and is living in Jacksonville Alabama(?) I didn't even know there was a Jacksonville Alabama. Anywho, he told me a joke.

With all appologies to Dayhiker:

What do a maggot and a Bama fan have in common?



They can both live off a dead bear for twenty years.


I swear, he told me that joke. I would not make something like that up. I didn't even laugh, I swear I didn't! At least not for more than five minutes.


If it weren't for Bama saving my butt (actually, it was the Iowa St. kicker who missed by the thickness of a sheet of paper), I would have had a dismal bowl record. Well, it's already pretty dismal, but it would have been worse.

Thank God, Bama didn't lose to one of those lowly big 12 teams. What happened to the pac 10? I thought they were decent this year? Loosing to the Mountain West and ACC? Good Lord, how the mighty have fallen.

Santa gave me a bunch of coal in my stocking with these bowl games. Do you think he has been reading this thread and found out how naughty I've been?
arclite
6:17:30 AM
12/28/01

I've heard that one. Last year after we were trounced by UCLA (we were ranked #3 preseason) an Architectural client (AU grad) called and asked what the difference between Bama and Dale Earnhardt was? Earnhardt's still #3. And for this year, do you know what the difference between Bama and a dollar bill is? You can get 4 qtrs out of a dollar bill. I told you I had a sense of humor.

I think that field goal was good. If it wasn't, then that's as close as you can get. I'm hesitant to say Bama won. I think saying we didn't lose is more appropriate. They went up and down the field on us, while we only had 1 drive. Oh well, we've still been to and won more bowls than anyone. RTR
dayhiker
8:38:37 AM
12/28/01

It was nice of the announcer to point out that fact about Bama's bowl record, dayhiker. That's a nice statistic and no voting involved.

You sure are right about that, dayhiker. It was one ugly win, but a win nonetheless. What was remarkable was how Bama stuck around while getting dragged up and down the field. Bama's defense came through when it needed to. You could call that a traditional Bama win. The field goal was mighty close, but the ref was standing right under the post and had the best angle. It was a nail biter. Third and 25? Iowa St. had third and 25? Iowa St. had third and 25 and got 26 yards? I'll bet your language was as colorful as mine on that play, dayhiker. Sheesh, that was ugly. Almost as ugly as my bowl picks... Nah, not that ugly.

So far I've got it:
Dunadan- 50 points
Chili- 31 points
Dayhiker- 36 points
Max- 59 points
Me- 36 points

Thank God Stanford didn't win, or Max would be running away with it. Max only has one bowl loss. Dunadan has two losses and has got all of his low point bowls out of the way. Nice 1, 2, & 3 point bowl picks, Mr. football god. The rest of us still have a chance. The rest of you have a better chance if you picked differently from me.
arclite
11:26:07 AM
12/28/01

Someone pointed out on a Bama board that if that field goal was good then we should drive up to Oxford for overtime with Ole Piss. We had a field goal like that one called NG and we lost by 3. I guess everything evens out.

PS. I guess I didn't read the bowl pick'em post that good. Where are these points coming from? Maybe how many points above or below the line or maybe above or below the win-loss? As far as the order goes, I just cut and pasted chili's.
dayhiker
11:46:04 AM
12/28/01

Whuzzup wid Chili and Dayhiker? I was looking at our bowl orders as my teams were going down the toilet over the holiday. A lot of the fun (and difficulty) of this format was choosing the order of the games. Chili and dayhiker chose my order, Dunadan.

arclite
06:17:30 AM
12/28/01

Well arc, at the time, my thought was "why re-invent" the wheel. Presently, I am left with a crystal clear meaning of "hindsight is 20/20". LOL. I will just chock this one up to "lessons learned".
chili36
12:14:59 PM
12/28/01

Dayhiker, check out Max's post when he suggested the format.

It's a conspiracy between you guys! That way our picks only come down to a few games. I'm gonna go put on my tinfoil hat so's ya'll can't beam any suggestions into my head.

"Arclite will kiss his own arse when he loses...Arclite will kiss his own..." STOP IT!
arclite
1:55:07 PM
12/28/01

56, you mean...
Hey, folks. After Texas A&M, I'm at 56.
I couldn't believe 3 missed field goals!!!! Back to high school for that dude.
I knew the Pac 10 was soft. That was why I chose the Ramblin' Wreck over Stanford. But, Utah over USC??? I still wouldn't pick that and the game's over.
I think the only game I should have picked differentlly was the A&M game. Should have made it worth more money. I knew they would rock. Don't think TCU should have been invited to a bowl.
Update on the Jayhawks...Mangino is continuing to gather some talent in the coaching dept. There are two players that signed that said they would have passed KU by except for Mangino. Best move he's made so far, though, is kicking the former starting quarterback off of the team. That guy was a morale killer if I ever saw one. You can only steal so many purses, you know.
Dunadan
7:12:46 PM
12/28/01

Rack em'
Boston College came through for the Dunadan!
Dunadan
7:41:28 PM
12/28/01

Way to go Hawks!

(I don't know anything about this bowl format and don't care. hehehehe)
lizs
11:34:22 PM
12/29/01

Oh, but you know I ALWAYS worship at the feet of the College Football God! All hail Dunadan!
lizs
11:36:52 PM
12/29/01

Ahh, Lizzy, the feeling is mutual. Corn is King!
Dunadan
7:45:05 PM
12/30/01

The "Corn Pone Kings". Great name for a group. Too early to tell if the big 12 is pathetic or just mediocre.


By my calaculations:

Max- 147
arcbite- 96
Dunadan- 92
Chili & Dayhiker- 90

The Big East is doing it's thing in the bowls again. Either these teams really can play with the big boys, or their match-ups are very favorable. The Big East had the best league bowl record last year and I STILL didn't give them enough respect this year.

Max seems to be running away with this thing. Today is crunch time. If BYU wins, the rest of us are in deep doo-doo.
arclite
6:45:46 AM
12/31/01

Hmmmm....Max set up the rating system and Max is winning....hmmmm....
Dunadan
11:54:21 AM
12/31/01

I see a correlation, Dun. Yeah, that's it,,,,I didn't understand the rules,,,yeah,,,they were unclear and that is what is causing me to be in last place,,,,who wrote the rules anyway,,,huh?? who? ,,,,, :)
chili36
11:59:52 AM
12/31/01

That's exactly what I've been thinking, Dunadan. 'Course it wouldn't help us anyway. He also has the most winners, period, with 11. You'd be second with 9, but most of your wins, so far, have been on your low scoring bowls. Colorado needs to come through for us too. You more than me. Is the big 12 going to come through in the clutch, or what? That sure was an ugly win by Texas. I was almost all set to congratulate kleetn...almost.

I'll bet Max stands for Maximus Pickemus. The man sure looks like he knows his teams.
arclite
12:09:10 PM
12/31/01

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