Occupy Wall Street

“You are wigging out.”

“Freon(R)OD and smokes to much Higgernead's Flattax.”

“Rosey , get away from them , they are bad news. It ain't no joke, I ain't wiggn.”

“What do you propose to do strat?

Shoot a few demonstrators?”

“How bout we look into it Violin? Hey I know, let's be honest adults with integrity and expose them for what they are instead of lying about it and pretending that they are just a few innocent unemployed college students? Ever think of that? The truth? Reality?

Naw, prolly not. You know and I know that if they take off their masks, it's over and they be ridden out on a rail. So they'll wait as long as possible, but when they do....who'll be standing with them? You violin? You stand in solidarity with the Marxist, anarchist. Commies, atheist, Nazis, union thugs, and radical Islamist? Is that your crowd that you relate to V? If so, take off your mask and tell the truth. Tell us why a violent revolution is good for America.

The plan?
Top down- Obama and progressives in congress put as much pressure on the system as possible and create economic strife so people will revolt.

Bottom up- OWS fleabaggers try to gin up public support and cause clashes with police. The media and Obama all blaming "the rich" and republicans


Insideout- blow up the system and progress into communism.

I don't care who you are or what you think of me. This is real and it's on your doorstep. ignore it, call me crazy, I don't care . It's real and if you don't look into it for yourself then shame on you as a parent and a citizen. If you don't wake up, I'd say you really don't deserve to be free.”

“I'm with you to some extent strat, the devolution of America is indeed in progress, and do we as a country deserve it? I truly believe that yes, we do. But what can any of us do to stop it ...... nothing, if you want to be realistic. I'ma do like Mr Bean "Brace yuself." No doubt, lotta ppl in a decade are gonna be scratching their heads, if we even make it that far.

I'm not a gloom and doomer Beck kinda guy, but what we as a stupid society are creating will be unprecedented in America's history. Food and weapons? If you don't believe in them, good luck, likely you're gonna need luck. Daddy Government will be unable to sustain a long-term nanny-provisional system. Thank the good Lord we don't have a billion ppl like China and India.

I guess the real question is: Can free market capitalism coexist with conservatism for very long distances? Obviously this system will have market ups and downs ... but can it succeed and even thrive for centuries? I suppose, with a great number of American society being thoroughly liberal with other ppls' money, that capitalism and conservatism can NOT succeed together in the long run. That begs to ask: Well, then what?

Heyullfire, I better get something done..... more later. I'd be interested to hear your defense of liberally spending (wasting) our future's moneys Rev. It's just something I don't understand.

And strat, your analogy of Steve's cancer idn't a good one, didn't he have pancreatic cancer? Didn't matter if he was a zillionaire, he's a goner. Of the many cancers we might attract, that one you don't want no business with whatsoever.”

“I'm afraid the nation might have pancreatic too. I'm just trying to prepare people for what's coming. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't believe I am”

“http://biggovernment.com/lstranahan/2011/10/24/glenn-beck-was-right-ows-wants-violent-revolution/

Glenn Beck Was Right, Says Leading Occupy Activist: #OccupyWallStreet Wants Violent Revolution
by Lee Stranahan”

“Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But they aren't a bunch of tea baggers bringing their firearms to a rally, are they? I'd think if they really wanted a violent revolution, it'd be happening. Instead, we've seen protesters carted off to jails and maced in the face: typical non-violent protest stuff. Show me where the violence is so far, dood?

Your paranoia is immense.”

“Homosexual slur reported”

“It's a real shame about the Oakland camp.

*snicker*”

“The GOPTP is the American Lords Resistance Army”

“Actually Rosey New York police have reported that shootings are up since the occupiers arrived. 27% I believe. Rosey did you watch the video above where the OWS organizer says , yes Beck is the only one who gets it, we want to drag bankers into the streets and string them up and the audience applauds. Go watch it Rosey and tell men then who's paranoid”

“Racist David Duke Joins The Unions, Maoists, Communists, Socialists, & Anti-Semites at OWS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKy22KsxX9k&feature=player_embedded”

“GET THE JEWS!

Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street - LA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMjm4LxFa1c&feature=related”

“CAIR at Occupy Wall Street: ‘Islam Stands for Social Justice’

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cair-at-occupy-wall-street-islam-stands-for-social-justice/

see, Islamist and OWS and Nazis all ahte Jews.....

Isnt that weird?”

“dOOd, get some help, you're totally out of your mind. That Meth has your paranoia poppin' dOOd, every thing is out to get you like it did to Ain Rand. You're thinking commies are trying to create anarchy, when that's what the Koch Bros are doing. Now Jews are another thing your need to stand clear of, they invented paranoia.”

“So you agree with them, gotcha.

Anybody that can watch those videos and say I'm the paranoid one has lost touch with reality or is just lying. I told you, call me whatever you want. I really don't care. You cant deny the video evidence so

Wonder what Rosey thinks? What ever happened to Tilt?”

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Stovie
9:47:51 AM
10/18/11



�I have no doubt you could get a real picture of a Democrat office holder and a communist party member in the same frame. Maybe even talking to each other, but that picture sure looks photoshopped.�
pedxing
4:37:11 PM
10/18/11



�No way. Someone's posting B.S.???�
roseymonster
5:30:24 PM
10/18/11




pedx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHG6dfjXpUY

About 3:10 into the video.

Can you and rosey admit you are wrong, and it's you that are posting "B.S."?�Stovie
7:14:53 PM
10/18/11”

“New York police have reported that shootings are up since the occupiers arrived. 27% I believe.
- stratd00d


In fact, violent crime is down over the same week last year.

Sorry to burst your bubble.


Your entire take on the OWS movement comes from a few highly edited video clips from people with an agenda.

You are not in touch with reality - literally.

If you can fly into Newark, I'll pick you up and take you over to Zuccotti Park. See and decide for yourself.”

“What part of we want to string bankers up do you not, v?

David Duke loves OWS, so.... Yeah

They are Marxist revolutionaries. Read the coming insurrection, Rules for Radicals and the weight of the Poor. They are tired of the slow movement of progressivism and are gonna take it by force. Ending capitalism is the goal.”

“Like a theif in the night....”

“You know violin. That's pretty lane. I mean that's your only defense. Your crazy. That's it. That's all you got. You say nothing about the nazis and communists, just call me names.

Weak sauce. Try using your mind and debate me on the merits of ending capitalism.”

“I didn't say you are crazy strat. I said you are literally out of touch with reality because your only experience of the protests comes from video snippets that someone else is feeding you. They present an unrepresentative example of what is going on down there in order to discredit the entire group.

I've offered to take you down there to observe for yourself. The offer still stands - say the word.”

“Other people have told you that the goal is the elimination of capitalism.

If you would like to get an idea of what OWS is really about, here is the official copy of the suggested content for a petition of grievances that was drafted by the working group: https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/

There are several ideas in there that you support including term limits and controlling the Federal debt (maybe elimination of the Fed?). This is not the final document. That won't be voted upon until next summer. You can have some input into the final form.”

“Regarding the increase in crime since the occupiers arrived that someone else told you was the case, here are the facts: http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cscity.pdf

As you can see, violent crime is down, not up. You can research more here: http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/crime_prevention/crime_statistics.shtml”

“I didn't say you are crazy strat. I said you are literally out of touch with reality because your only experience of the protests comes from video snippets that someone else is feeding you. They present an unrepresentative example of what is going on down there in order to discredit the entire group.

Yeah, I hate it when that happens.

http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/53339,-1.php”

“Non, I guess you haven't been paying attention. I've know about OWS for well over a year. Ok, lemme clarify my reality that you assume I'm so out of touch with. See, I've been paying attention. Have you? It would take me hours to cover every tidbit. I have a job and kids and a life so that will never happen. It's your job to dig for the truth and educate yourself. I don't want you to believe me. I want you to give a $h1t and inform yourself.”

“OK - continue to experience life through the internet. Let us know what others tell you is happening.”

“Sorry, didn't mean to submit that, wasn't finished. Stupid IPhone

So here's the dealio on reality;
you're wrong. I could produce video after video, picture after picture, quote upon quote upon quote. It's all there. That's the beauty of all this technology, everything's on tape and on the web and we can watch these people in their own words talkin about these things. But again, I'm not a TV production and dont have that kind of time on my hands.besides, who would believe me, right? But if you look for yourself, you'll see that I'm right. It's the only way to know for sure that your not being played by either side. All I can do is open the door a little, you have to peek inside if you have the guts. Like I said before, most people don't want to know about the boogeyman under the bed so they shut their eyes tight and go back to sleep. I've said it a million times, don't take my word for it...LOOK IT UP

Now, i don't always agree with you Non but I've always thought you to be reasonable and intelligent. so you can imagine my disappointment when I hear you say, basically, oh your crazy Strat. Why even bother ? Is that all you can think to say or are you not even curious about I'm all stoked up over this? If you disagree with something specific, point it out and well debate it, I'll make a case and back it up with evidence. So for examPle you could say , hey Strat, I don't think there are real communist and nazis involved, then I have something to debate and show you evidence of. I cant debate, Strat, your crazy. There's not really a response to that. No I'm not, yes you are, no I'm not.... Doesn't really work . Thats all violin does because he can't debate me because he knows I'm right about these people. There's no meat, no substance to the argument. Your crazy, ooh really burned me on that one. ..... Let's talk about it. Have it out on the battlefield of ideas. These things are way too comex for me tocover everything on every post so be specific and I'll tell you what I think and why I think it. And if you just don't care, you know, if America goes communist or not, then honestly Non I've misjudged you bigtime. I thought you were a more plugged in citizen than that.

I know this stuff is out there. 2 years ago I never would have believed any of it. Maybe I'm wrong but the more I look the more I'm convinced. They are hiding their true agenda but the masks are starting to come off . Yes yes, there's plenty of good innocent people down there who just need help, just want things to get better. But ive known this was coming and I'm an outsider. So if I knew it was coming, it wasn't grass roots, by no means organic. Tthat's all part of it, top-down. Make people miserable and then feed that misery with a little hate, fear, envy ... Before you know it, you got a revolution on your hands. They want to turn us insideout.

Google; Van Jones, top down, bottom up, in side out

Or go back to you cubicle and pretend everything's cool and Strats crazy. It's your choice, but I will say they are counting on you not paying attention.

What if I'm right?



So Non, I suppose your argument is that it's no different than the Tea Party, is that it? Other than I'm crazy.....?”

“You're not crazy, strat. You strike me as an earnest person with a deficit in both perspective and capacity for critical evaluation, and you have a flair for the dramatic.

In other words, exactly like violin. I swear, reading these posts, it's like one person arguing with himself.”

“Slow down, strat. Read. Interpret. Ask questions. Then reply.


Yes, Rev, I forgot about that post. My bad.”

“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E1hKn7v9bs&feature=player_embedded

Heres Bill Ayers, Obamas buddy talking to occupy oakland, where they had riots last night, about revolution and the tea party”

“riots in Oakland, last night. STRATS CRAZY STRATS LOST IT!

friggin idiots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr5tlchVOp8&feature=player_embedded”

“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiURSwIui-o&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV6DKZrpac0&feature=player_embedded

Isnt that weird, perspective and capacity for critical evaluation”

“Here is the official copy of the suggested content for a petition of grievances that was drafted by the working group: https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/

There are a number I agree with and others I'm not so keen on. The first three - absolutely.

Which of these do you dislike and why?

Do you not see that you have at least some common ground with these?”

“At first glance I see some that I like and some that I dislike. I'll take it as a "first draft" but I'd be lying if I said I didn't share any of those same ideas.

It's a monumental task taking on the entrenched but it's happened before (everywhere) and can happen again.”

“Well I'm no liberal but I've done the same thing. I know that might come as a shock to some people.”

“I think the TT "mods" are in a class all by their own.”

“Yeah I agree with some of it , but most of it would require amending the constitution not a violent revolution.

And it still doesnt adress the fact that the riots that I've been paranoidly warning you all about have started, last night in Oakland CA”

“OWS folks can't seem to decide if the Wall St. bankers are Jews, or Nazis. Make up your mind and get back to me will ya?”

“Monkey see, monkey do

So true.”

“Mutely, very nice. There may be hope for you yet....”

“ACORN Is Secretly Helping Organize & Fund the ‘Occupy’ Movement

The former director of New York ACORN, Jon Kest, and his top aides are now busy working at protest events for New York Communities for Change (NYCC). That organization was created in late 2009 when some ACORN offices disbanded and reorganized under new names after undercover video exposes prompted Congress to cut off federal funds.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-acorn-is-secretly-helping-organize-fund-the-occupy-movement/

NYCC’s connection to ACORN isn’t a tenuous one: It works from the former ACORN offices in Brooklyn, uses old ACORN office stationery, employs much of the old ACORN staff and, according to several sources, engages in some of the old organization’s controversial techniques to raise money, interest and awareness for the protests.”

“I'm dying laughing here: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/grubby_lowlifes_wvw3jSZRkqIIqJcio5xJaI

Newly sprung ex-cons and vagrants rousted from other parks are crashing the Occupy Wall Street protest, where gourmet meals are free and boozy, drug­fueled parties are on tap, the movement’s leaders griped yesterday.

“They’re telling people who leave prison to go to Zuccotti Park,” lamented Daniel Zetah, a leader of the OWS community-relations group.

Volunteer Lauren Digioia, 26, said, “We have drug dealing going on here, gang activity, public intoxication. There are a lot of instigators. There are a lot of vultures.

“Everyone knows we give out free food and sleeping bags, and it’s a perfect opportunity for squatters.”

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