Egypt - revolution in the Middle East

“I couldn't find any thread on the events in Tunisia or the one's unfolding in Egypt. These events could turn out to be hugely important.

Any thoughts, opinions or analysis. Where is Mutt?”

“People don't want to talk about the mess we've been paying for throughout the years, P'sOW all of us and all of them. No more money, no more problems-for us, that is.”

“in b4 sh7tfest”

“This is a pretty important and serious situation.

I'm sure ammo in the US market will spike again.”

“It's a good thing we have Jimmy Carter II in office.”

“In what office?”

“Fox news tried to say Mubarak took office 32 years ago in Carter's term, but the truth is Anwar El-Sadat was killed by the CIA in Oct of 1981. Got to keep your eye on Fox now that Palin and Bachman are the stations #1 historians.”

“Sadat was assassinated during Reagan's administration. I'd be interested to see what evidence you have of CIA involvement. As far as I see, it was pretty clearly done by people connected to the same bunch of Islamists that organized the first attempt to destroy the World Trade Center.

Sadat seemed like a pretty good ally for the US.”

“"Sadat was assassinated during Reagan's administration. I'd be interested to see what evidence you have of CIA involvement. As far as I see, it was pretty clearly done by people connected to the same bunch of Islamists that organized the first attempt to destroy the World Trade Center."

Ummm, its common knowledge that the folks locked up after the Saddat, then released, are the founders of Al Queda.

Hello? Is this THING ON?”

“Did you read Salebored's post? The one I was responding to?”

“You'll be able to read it on Wikileaks when they get around to it.”

“Obamie's dominoes finally are toppling.

Thanks moonbats!”

“kindness is a virtue”

“'Merikan democraky in Egypt, they should have the rite to election anyone we think they should.”

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http://www.daybydaycartoon.com”

“How's that hopey changey thing working for you?”

“I wish CNN would post the Tele#'s of the RNC and TPExpress, so american conservatives could call them for help being evacuated from Egypt.”

“Looks to me like a bunch of clueless emotional people making the worst of a less-than-ideal situation.

Lots of that going on in the world.”

“I won't know what to think until I hear what Ron Paul has to say about it.”

“How much food do you have in your pantry?

Food staples starting to run out in EgyptBy Salma Abdelaziz, CNN
January 31, 2011 5:57 a.m. EST

The unrest has paralyzed daily life in Egypt with many grocers closing shop and spotty food shipments.STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Many grocers have closed
Food shipments are spotty
Many families afraid to go out to shop
(CNN) -- While discontent, resentment and nationalism continue to fuel demonstrations, one vital staple is in short supply: food.

Many families in Egypt are fast running out of staples such as bread, beans and rice and are often unable or unwilling to shop for groceries.

"Everything is running out. I have three children, and I only have enough to feed them for maybe two more days. After that I do not know what we will do." school administrator Gamalat Gadalla told CNN.

The unrest has paralyzed daily life in Egypt with many grocers closing shop and spotty food shipments.



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"With the curfew, there are no restaurants, food or gas. Basic goods will soon be in shortage," Sandmonkey, an Egyptian blogger said via Twitter.

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak has ordered a curfew in Egypt to be extended from 3 p.m. to 8 a.m. on Monday, further stifling normal life in the embattled nation.

Egyptian state-run Nile TV has set up a hotline for citizens to call in and report bread shortages. There has been no other indication of what the Egyptian government is doing to address the crisis.



So, thinking ahead...I'm not a pure prepper, but I tend to shop about 2 months out...excepting perishables...and then I can bake bread, and I have freeze dried vegetables, and GROAN, powdered eggs and milk....

If it happened here how would your family fare?”

““How's that hopey changey thing working for you?”

One US military robot's melting.”

“The price of gold tells the story, still going down.”

“"If it happened here how would your family fare?"

We would perhaps tread water for a couple of days feeling the situation out but if the situation continued south we would have to relocate; we would quickly become targeted.

If something like this went down quick we would boot to the rendezvous point ASAP as a precaution.”

“I'm still waiting to see what the Egyptian military wants to do.

The US is in a tough position again in terms of rooting for Democracy, but not wanting the kinds of policy shifts that would likely come with real Democracy.

There seems to be some chance that a fairly progressive, secular, internationalist leadership could emerge - especially in the short term. It would be hard to see how this could have credibility without also legalizing the Muslim Brotherhood. Then we would have to hope that the new government could do well enough to win the elections which followed (or to get the people to tolerate the lack of free and fair elections).”

“There are a fair amount of Egyptians that are not Muslim. I have heard that Egypt has a mandatory military service requirement. This is important because this means a large majority of families in Egypt have, or had, close relatives in the military arm of the government. It has been suggested that this phenomenon is facilitating military ambivalence. I would be very surprised if the military used force to clear the streets. Up to this point the military has only used force when necessary as a means to control outrageous aggressive behavior; these situations could be considered minor and localized.”

“As far as the government, this is not a anti-US movement. This revolution is against the Autocracy in power for some 30 years.

The US has a history of sending mixed signals as a means to keep eggs in both baskets (think the "One China" policy). The "current" Egyptian government has provided the US with a form of firewall during the our current military action against global terrorists. However, this firewall has been detrimental to the Egyptian people because this has been used as an "excuse" by the government when enforcing laws on their citizenry and giving them "plausible permission" to torture and implement other human rights abuses.

The US wants the current Autocracy out but the US can't look like it's inciting a riot because if the revolution fails we'll have one unhappy leader in an important area of the world on our hands.

One major global concern is keeping the Suez Canal free and open.

I think this will end positively; however, positively will depend on which side of the stick one is. For the leaders of that area, they very well may be out the door and those countries will have access to Democracy.

Frankly, and IMHO, we again are witnesses to a great historical moment. We could very well see the Middle East open up to Democracy as the former Eastern Block did some 10-20 years ago.”

“Looks to me like a bunch of clueless emotional people making the worst of a less-than-ideal situation.

Lots of that going on in the world.�
toejam
11:00:58 PM
1/30/11

...and on tt”

“Frankly, and IMHO, we again are witnesses to a great historical moment. We could very well see the Middle East open up to Democracy as the former Eastern Block did some 10-20 years ago.

Now if we could only see that happen here in the US.”

“Oh, no wait. We can have government violate our Bill of Rights and shove controls down our throats as long as it's in the name of helping the poor and the young and old.”

“I agree, its not an anti-US movement, though there is some disappointment with US statements on the situation. Protest leaders like El-Baradei are definitely not anti-US, though they aren't pro-US either, but other forces, such as the Moslem Brotherhood are clearly anti-US. Hamas was founded by people in the Moslem Brotherhood and they maintain a relationship.”

“"I agree, its not an anti-US movement, though there is some disappointment with US statements on the situation."

As I expressed earlier there is a fine line to walk. This is a situation that the US cannot afford to screw up. We have to let this play out and be prepared for all potential outcomes as best as can be done. This situation will facilitate some form of change in the Middle East. I'll posit that the Middle East as we have known it will be no more and will never be "the same".

"Protest leaders like El-Baradei are definitely not anti-US, though they aren't pro-US either, but other forces, such as the Moslem Brotherhood are clearly anti-US. Hamas was founded by people in the Moslem Brotherhood and they maintain a relationship"

Absolutely. It is a positive component that the radical Muslim component contains a low minority of the population.

The police are the ones who seems to be drawing the most amount of anger; which makes sense considering the police have been the primary and front line agent of government harassment.”

“Do you dream when you have your sunglasses on?”

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http://www.daybydaycartoon.com”

“we again are witnesses to a great historical moment. - Queue

Well i wasn't going to give that much weight, but then it happens Jimmy Carter said basically the same thing, here, so.”

“"Well i wasn't going to give that much weight, but then it happens Jimmy Carter said basically the same thing, here, so."

lol.”

“Its the USs fault stupid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oddzA_R-zaU&NR=1&feature=fvwp
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“I would agree that the US could have done a few things differently, but I generally state that it must be hard to kept a long term approach in dealing with global issues when our country has a much higher leadership turnover.”

“The Rand Corp doesn't change.”

“Great link nimrod!

Interesting to see that Russia Today is putting someone on with this spin. Not sure if he is a paranoid nutcase - or if he is "crazy like a fox" working for someone (maybe in Russia).

I looked the interviewee up on Wikipedia. One like stands out: "In the past he was openly affiliated with American Statesman Lyndon H. LaRouche Jr."

It says a lot about him and whoever put together the Wikipedia page.

On his website this guy reveals that Wikileaks are fake and are a CIA con job.

http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.net/”

“I wonder if the Egyptians thank China for that $1.3 bln the US gives in military aid to not invade Israel and gives them toys to drive and fly around in.”

“Absolutely. Egypt is second only to Israel regarding military support from the United States of America.”

“Shipping American made tear gas cannisters to our Middle East Allies, good business, printing USA on them Post Fail Picture Here
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“Media Matters is blaming the Jews....”

“Yep.”

“The "Jews"??? That statement puts the I in IGNORANT. Blaming Israel, I can see that. Billions spent every year to prop up the military of a country that has plenty of money to support itself. That has to stop.”

“I blame Canada ...”

“Blame the juice in LaCanada, bathtub gin or stinking smelly Weeds, plant sum!”

“'W'ah's daughter Barbara is for gay marriage freedom, blame her and leave the 'almostamericans' to the north alone.”