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“All of it? Some of it? None of it? Tick, tick, tick.....”
“Wow, they'll want to do that before they burn the tax code at midnight on Jan 20th?”
“We'll see they're all a bunch of socialist now that they're in office getting a Gov check. They'll not cut out the socialist subsidies from the tax code, they'll try to add to them.”
“Here's a list of Unions and Corps that have special exemptions, Obama taking care of his own...
Approved Applications for Waiver of the Annual Limits Requirements of the PHS Act Section 2711 as of November 1, 2010
“yeah, strat - coz the Big O is of course the person that reviews the paperwork and approves the applications for waiver.”
“He didn't give the okay for certain types of exemptions?”
“Bush isn't the one who signed the paperwork for using Daisy Cutters in Iraq...”
“Roam, who does sign the paperwork? Hell, they all admitted they didn't even read the f'ing bill before they all voted for it so who did? Who wrote it? How many backroom bribes did they have to pull to get it passed?”
No press release?
“Salesboard, stop acting like you know what Socialism is.”
“You've pointed out the problem, I do know what it is.”
“A Virginia federal judge just ruled Obamacare to be unconstitutional.
cue: Terry Sciavo trailtalkers who said that you can't argue with judges ....”
“Did you really dig her up and do another video to send to Dr.Frist?”
ew Low in Support for Health Care Reform
December 13, 2010 1:17 PM
Coinciding with a federal judge’s ruling invalidating a key element of the health care reform law, an ABC News/Washington Post poll finds support for the landmark legislation at a new low – but division on what to do about it.
The law’s never been popular, with support peaking at just 48 percent in November 2009. Today it’s slipped to 43 percent, numerically its lowest in ABC/Post polling. (It was about the same, 44 percent, a year ago.) Fifty-two percent are opposed, and that 9-point gap in favor of opposition is its largest on record since the latest debate over health care reform began in earnest in summer 2009.
More also continue to “strongly” oppose the law than to strongly support it, 37 percent to 22 percent.”
“New Low in Support for Health Care Reform
December 13, 2010 1:17 PM
“Virginia, leading the fight against tyranny, again. Your welcome!”
“That is a 'Campaign Solution' to the problem?
“Judge owns biz, biz owns judge, who isn't owned?”
“Thanks for reposting that Strat.”
“lol HPD, my bad....they prolly all have both of us on IGNORE anyways!”
“saleboard - "“Judge owns biz, biz owns judge, who isn't owned?”
The judge owns stock in a company which paid him maybe 15k over 5 years and that makes him owned?
The evidence is a blog..please try and keep it real.
What private good or service are you mandated to buy by the government? This is a new and unconstitutional mandate, seems pretty cut and dry.”
“Can a judge own stock in a company that will benefit from his decision, no. In this case, the company he owned stock is was fighting against the bill when it was being written, is that a problem for the judges objectivity ? He should not have made a ruling and passed it to another judge.”
“How does this company "Campaign solutions" benefit from the defeat of the healthcare bill?”
“Well yeah, that's kind of what I imagined, they work on campaigns. IT stuff.. What's that got to do with health care?”
“To make you aware, I like nothing about this bill and nothing about the overall health care system in this country. So, that said, I could care less about the bill, but have great concerns about people owning bigbiz and making decisions that can further the cause to take over of this country by the same BigBiz that already owns most all of us and the futures of our children--BigBiz has only one gawd and that god is a $.”
“That's a separate issue. There is really no bigger biz than health care, and forcing people to buy it seems problematic. It'll likely result in more mergers or fewer and bigger companies which generally gives less quality product...and the quality isn't great now.
I like that VA decided to fight this thing and I don't know anybody, left or right, that likes it. I've seen no evidence his Judge is bought off. Usually one gets bought off to make a change not to stop a change.”
“You can't separate, the judge and his obvious right leanings from his job. I'm not talking about health care, this is biased judge because of his personnel actions. Even if the stock doesn't sway his decision the appearance is just as important.
HC in this country is DOA anyway, because it should not be in the federal governments hands, as with about 80% of what else it does.”
“From the story I don't see the personal actions you're talking about. He taking health care out of the hands of the feds, at least for now, and none of us want to see health care DOA.
I'm not against government health care, give it a shot.
It should just be done on the state level, then we got 50 chances to get it right.”
“The judge tried to fudge. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/amateur-hour-va-judge-makes-elementary-error-in-health-care-ruling.php”
“Don't recuse, resign Judge Neck.”
CBO doubles Obamacare cost estimate
“CBO: Obamacare to cost $1.76 trillion over 10 yrs
byPhilip Klein Senior Editorial Writer
President Obama's national health care law will cost $1.76 trillion over a decade, according to a new projection released today by the Congressional Budget Office, rather than the $940 billion forecast when it was signed into law.
Democrats employed many accounting tricks when they were pushing through the national health care legislation, the most egregious of which was to delay full implementation of the law until 2014, so it would appear cheaper under the CBO's standard ten-year budget window and, at least on paper, meet Obama's pledge that the legislation would cost "around $900 billion over 10 years." When the final CBO score came out before passage, critics noted that the true 10 year cost would be far higher than advertised once projections accounted for full implementation.
Today, the CBO released new projections from 2013 extending through 2022, and the results are as critics expected: the ten-year cost of the law's core provisions to expand health insurance coverage has now ballooned to $1.76 trillion. That's because we now have estimates for Obamacare's first nine years of full implementation, rather than the mere six when it was signed into law. Only next year will we get a true ten-year cost estimate, if the law isn't overturned by the Supreme Court or repealed by then. Given that in 2022, the last year available, the gross cost of the coverage expansions are $265 billion, we're likely looking at about $2 trillion over the first decade, or more than double what Obama advertised.
“Well it's just too damn bad, for us all. Kawz when Dear Sir Obama gets reelected in November, you can kiss legislating something better good-bye for a lawng, lawng time.
Wy, it'll limit frivolous lawsuits, better guide pharmaceuticals, implement restrictions on insurance companies, improve competition and other cost controls....... oh, wait a minute..... actually, it does non of these things.
“I have surgery at 9:00 tomorrow and I'm glad the gubment isn't in charge just yet.....”
“Good luck, Stratd00d!”
“Thanks man. Im in pretty rough shape right now”
“wft Strat!? You ain't gonna keel over izya?”
“Uhhg, I had surgery and they sent memhome but there was a lot of bleeding and I started getting faint and came back to ER last night at 1:00 in the mornin and been here ever since. My condition has improved but they want to watch me some more”
“Home now, safe n sound. That sucked”
“The supreme court began today and we will know by July
What will happen to the business's that drop private health insurance to their employees stating its not my responsibility anymore, its the Government's job now
What are the projected $$ for single payees? its got to be 12K Wow what a Tax
cant wait til July to know the outcome oh wait wont have to, the OWS Spring will be here by then................”
“What will happen to the business's that drop private health insurance to their employees stating its not my responsibility anymore, its the Government's job now.
That would be pretty stupid. Businesses with more than 50 employees will pay a penalty if they don't offer insurance and their employees sign up through an exchange. Small businesses will get a substantial tax credit for offering insurance to their employees.
What are the projected $$ for single payees? its got to be 12K Wow what a Tax.
That's the whole point of requiring the exchanges - so individuals can purchase insurance at group rates.
Do you have any other very basic misconceptions about the law?”
“ok maybe on the first but 12K is probably the number
The misconceptions are built in to all legislation and Trusting is a personal preference”
“The good Mr Rev supports Obama Care..... shocking.”
“Actually I think it was a weak compromise as I wanted single payer, but its sure better than what we had.
Were you aware that the present law is pretty much what was proposed by right leaning think tanks and pushed by many Republicans as an alternative to what Clinton tried to push through?
Republicans: For ObamaCare before they were against it.”
“This thing getting struck down by the SC will guarantee the Presidents re-election.”
“Unfortunately I think you're correct, One.
Violin, did you notice the CBO revised their cost estimates to about double what it was before? What am I saying? Of course you noticed, you're very attentative. You probably just forgot to mention it...
So please tell us how bankrupting the Nation will help all the sick people.....
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