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the result of that thinking is that anything can be okay because you can always find something else to justify the action

because some people misinterpret a school of thought does not make the school of thought wrong

sort of like morons misinterpreting the bible does not make the bible wrong
crash bang
7:45:59 AM
6/08/10

I'm not talking about misinterpreting a school of thought.

To prove it, I'll let you provide the case -

Give me any decision (hypothetical or otherwise) where the decision is made using relativism.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
7:48:17 AM
6/08/10

Agreeing 1000% = exaggerating at a ten times multiple?
uncliff
7:51:32 AM
6/08/10

“I personally want to know why the hell the government should have any say EITHER WAY?

Its a personal decision....

theXL400
6:45:33 AM
6/08/10


That is precisely my point.
chili36
7:55:29 AM
6/08/10

murder is a personal decision?

wow!
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
7:57:23 AM
6/08/10

"misinterpreting" may not be the correct word

"mis-applying" is probably closer to what i was trying to convey

thats really not right, either. basically, when you see people doing whatever they want, thats the result of selfishness, greed, addiction to sensation, with no regard for consequences. they have little to no interest in justifying anything, and if they do, they are lying.

"sincerely searching for truth" and believing that the bible doesnt have a right/wrong checklist, in essence, makes you a relativist
crash bang
7:59:48 AM
6/08/10

Absolutely not.

A relativist is able to use any standard to justify their actions. By definition, a fundamentalist cannot.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
8:02:26 AM
6/08/10

A relativist is able to use any standard to justify their actions.

someone who mis-uses relativist thinking is able to use any standard to justify their actions
crash bang
8:07:54 AM
6/08/10

murder is a personal decision?

wow!


Killing can be.
Mutt
8:08:55 AM
6/08/10

Anything we do is a decision, Mutt - but to say it's "personal" means that society should not judge if it was warranted.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
8:11:22 AM
6/08/10

someone who mis-uses relativist thinking is able to use any standard to justify their actions
crash bang


Again, provide me with a "correct usage" of relativistic thinking and we can go from there.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
8:12:26 AM
6/08/10

It's my personal decision to kill a home invader or flee or cooperate.
Mutt
8:15:20 AM
6/08/10

Mutt, I agree that you have made a decision to do that, but it's not a personal decision from a sociological perspective in looking at the consequences. The action itself is personal, but the consequences are not. Because not just you, but many others are faced with the same decision, it goes from being a personal decision to a societal dilemma.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
8:18:27 AM
6/08/10

every decision that factors in extenuating circumstances and any other pertinent factors is a relativist decision, because rational humans realize that there is no "right/wrong" checklist
crash bang
8:20:41 AM
6/08/10

crash, why will you not provide an example?

I knew when I asked it you would be conflicted in answering it because it going through the thought process, you see that there is always "one more thing" you can use to determine your position. I was still hoping that you would come up with something though that is an example of relativistic decision making.

If you would just provide an example, we could look at this objectively...
last edited: 6/08/10 8:23:23 AM
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
8:23:02 AM
6/08/10

i could, i just dont feel like it.
crash bang
8:36:50 AM
6/08/10

HPD, get out of the relatvism sandbox and forget about cb for just 60 seconds. You are continually failing to answer MY question.

I'll be plain and simple, and go directly to the point. Don't answer me with your stupid "my isn't ape imaginative" bullshyt, and just answer my question. Would you, HPD, expect your mother to abort her fetus if she were brutally gang-raped by a bunch of thugs and became pregnant??

Ball's in your court bub, you gonna duck and run?
naked ape
9:32:39 AM
6/08/10

Would you, HPD, expect your mother to abort her fetus if she were brutally gang-raped by a bunch of thugs and became pregnant??

I would expect she probably would. I think she probably is in favor of abortion.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
9:34:35 AM
6/08/10

.
last edited: 6/08/10 9:38:24 AM
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
9:37:54 AM
6/08/10

I'm asking about you dumba$$. I don't give a flip what your mother would do, I want to know what you'd want her to do if the decision was yours to make FOR HER.

Nope chigger, you ain't evading this.
naked ape
9:38:26 AM
6/08/10

Oh, well if that's what you wanted to know, maybe you should have asked it? I don't know. I'm just say'n.

HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
9:39:39 AM
6/08/10

Here, let me help you:

HPD, if your mother was brutally gang raped and became pregnant, and you were the one deciding if she should have an abortion, or not, what would you decide?

I'd say she should have the abortion because if she has a baby it's a zombie baby because she died last month of leukemia and the only way I can think she'd have a baby is if it's a zombie baby. Zombie babies are already dead anyways so you might as well kill them before they eat brains.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
9:43:22 AM
6/08/10

No, but seriously. She's not dead, but she is already past menopause.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
9:44:53 AM
6/08/10

Here, I'll help you again:

HPD, if your hypothetical non-menopausal mother was brutally gang raped and became pregnant, and you were the one deciding if she should have an abortion, or not, what would you decide?

I'd decide she should have the baby. Without a doubt.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
9:46:30 AM
6/08/10

What if your mother was Kitty Dukakis and she was brutally gang raped and became pregnant, was then murdered and you were the one deciding if she should have an abortion, or not, what would you decide?
Nonconformist
10:12:20 AM
6/08/10

I'd give her a bottle of rubbing alcohol and tell her to drink up. After she failed to do so due to being dead, I'd ride around in a tank with a helmet twice the size of my head and shout "My mom's Kitty Dukakis and she's a dead rape victim!"

hahahahahaha

Hypothetical brutal rapes are funny.
last edited: 6/08/10 10:16:38 AM
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
10:14:14 AM
6/08/10

Okay, tanks.
Nonconformist
10:15:28 AM
6/08/10

That's what I thought HPD, after plenty of avoidance horseslit, you FINALLY answered a direct question. That's good for a couple of points anyhow.

I'd decide she should have the baby. Without a doubt. <--- HPD, finally answering a question for a chanage

You're gonna make a shytty husband, and an even worse shytty father, not that anyone here would be surprised with that assessment.

Funny how you get on here so confidently blasting away with your righteous morality. Try applying that to the real world, not the one you live in up in that overblown head of yours.
naked ape
10:38:15 AM
6/08/10

Speaking of morality, you will make an excellent murderer.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
10:39:43 AM
6/08/10

Nice, you are the queen of stupid bullshyt. If there is a God in Heaven, I will one day have the ability to show your future wife (yeah right) and your future daughters (God forbid!) the immaturity you eagerly display on this thread.

Noncon hadn't it been discussed before about having booted this jackhole offa here under other names? This guy done put up all of Marko's personal info on here, and mugshot to boot, what the hell does a person have to do to finally get kikt offa here?!!!!
naked ape
10:50:44 AM
6/08/10

Come on, naked ape, give it a rest. Have a discussion, skip the insults, please.

If you want someone booted off, report the messages that are breaking the rules.
last edited: 6/08/10 10:53:19 AM
Nonconformist
10:51:51 AM
6/08/10

I understand why you are so adamant about trying to overcome losing a battle that you started. I've seen your mugshot and DAMN you one homely looking mo-fo. It explains your insecurities. BTW, ever hear of protein? You should try eating some.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
10:56:40 AM
6/08/10

O I C. "skip the insults", give me a break. You were a part of the thread I am referring to, what's to report? You were standing there in the room too, weren't that many ppl there that you couldn't see what was going on.
naked ape
10:57:05 AM
6/08/10

Like I said, sooner or later, naked ape will come to the conclusion that dealing with a jackass is a lousy way of spending valuable time and will simply ignore him.

Works for me.
chili36
10:57:32 AM
6/08/10

Noncon, naked ape is going to lie to God. Can you boot him off?
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
10:57:36 AM
6/08/10

* waves at chili *
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
10:57:54 AM
6/08/10

shouldnt hpd be calling conformist a net nanny right about now?
crash bang
10:58:37 AM
6/08/10

crash - technically he IS a net nanny
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
10:59:21 AM
6/08/10

naked ape - Okay, let's get to the bottom of this. Did I instigate something with you? If so, please point out where and if I truly started it, I will apologize.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
11:00:45 AM
6/08/10

Yeah I saw you had said that earlier chili, then like now I know'd you was right.

More'n likely he's on here just flaming like a good troll does, he is pretty convincing that he actually believes that way tho. I hurt for any women that enter his life, daughters especially. It's unfair for them.
naked ape
11:03:11 AM
6/08/10

Okay, let's get to the bottom of this. Did I instigate something with you? If so, please point out where and if I truly started it, I will apologize.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
11:03:39 AM
6/08/10

I was there. There was plenty of crap going on and the reported message was removed. So was the stuff that Violin recently posted but I don't remember you complaining about that.

How can you ask to have someone removed when you post the way you do? Is your ignore button broken? Chili is right: if you don't like what someone posts, don't waste your time with it.
Nonconformist
11:04:22 AM
6/08/10

A leopard never changes its spots, NA.
chili36
11:04:57 AM
6/08/10

LOL, puuuleez. Who be sukkin up to noncon now tuffguy HPD?
naked ape
11:05:26 AM
6/08/10

How about let's get to the end of this and just make it the end, lol?
Nonconformist
11:05:32 AM
6/08/10

Noncon - it's no fair!

I won't let chili and naked ape walk all over me unabated with their insults. Can't you do something about that?
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
11:05:35 AM
6/08/10

The moderators are discussing this very thing. (not this thing specifically, but generally.)
Nonconformist
11:07:32 AM
6/08/10

Ok, thanks!

If I could vote, I would say that chili and naked ape should be able to throw insults around and nobody should be able to defend themselves or fight back. Just my 2 cents.
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
11:08:38 AM
6/08/10

technically he IS a net nanny







if he looks like this, he can be my governess, if you know what i mean ;-O
crash bang
11:09:45 AM
6/08/10

Hey nekkid, did you find that post where I instigated this yet? Just let me know. Later man!
HiGHPLAiNSDRiFTER
11:10:06 AM
6/08/10

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