trips - White Mountains in Summer 2010

“Well, I hadn't thought of this but....my workplace usually has shutdown the first week or July.
I usually get to work at this time, but not always, and I don't want to take 2 weeks off work, back to back. Sometimes, they don't imform us, until a week prior to shutdown as well.
So....to play it safe, I should probably plan to start with CB on the 5th, and pick a spot to come out 5-6 days from the start.
Looks like I'll miss the best part of the hike?
If I find out early enough,(month) that I am working, then I could go back with the original plan.
last edited: 6/12/09 11:15:24 AM”

“Crash, what day do you expect to reach Gorham?”

“�i just recently picked up a Kelty Grand mesa2..

ill keep that in mind

alrighty, then. nct. just let me know when time is close

day 13, i believe, lumbar”

“The reason I ask is if I start at Liberty Spring on Sunday, that would put me at Pinkham Notch on Thursday morning. I might as well continue on to Gorham.”

“might as well.”

“I took a quick look of the NH National Geographic Map, and it looks like there are a lot of road crossing, at the start of the hike. Will the start of the hike go through a lot developed area's?

I'll probably hold-out, with hopes of being able to go, starting on the 11th, within a week of this start.
I'm hoping that I'll be able to work the 1st week in July, and meet you at Liberty Springs on the 11th? I'll need to let CB know by what? July 1st as what my plans will be?

Also, can this hike be done in trail runners, or will there be area's with a lot of talus. I usually hike in trail runners, but would have 2nds thoughts, in areas with good amounts of loose rock.
last edited: 6/13/09 12:47:57 PM”

“no taulus.. big rocks though.. a lot of it a nice trail.”

“ I'll need to let CB know by what? July 1st as what my plans will be?

with other people wanting to join the trip and having their own time constraints, youll need to let me know as soon as possible”

“with other people wanting to join the trip and having their own time constraints, youll need to let me know as soon as possible”
crash bang
2:24:41 PM
6/14/09

Can you tell me or give me a rough idea of what the first 5-6 days of the hike will be like, compared to the section from Liberty Springs to Mt Washington/Gorham?

The problem I have is with my work, not being able to tell me long enough in advance as to whether I can work during the first week of July or not.
If I can work, then I'd join you on the 11th, If I can't work, then I would join you on the 5th.
But, like I mentioned, I won't know this until at least 1 month beforehand.
I can decline to work this 1st week too though, which would lock me in now, for sure, starting with you on the 5th.
Don't mean to give you the flip flop run around, I just want to hit the best part this hike?
You've planted the seed now, and I've got the White Mtns Bug, so I could go anytime as well?
last edited: 6/14/09 1:56:36 PM”

“and I've got the White Mtns Bug, so I could go anytime as well?
last edited: 6/14/09 2:56:36 PM”
ncthiker

just post up on tt and who knows what that will stir up. :D

with other people wanting to join the trip and having their own time constraints, youll need to let me know as soon as possible”
crash bang

why don't you give us your itinerary and we all work around it.

well, i got my bud's interest sparked.. so we'll be going there sometime.. to make solid plans this far ahead, i find impossible in the life's situation i'm in right now.. just not possible.. i know he can't be that solid either. i'm interested in either i95 to PN or us302 to PN as i may want to wander washington and surrounds for some time too.. possibly chocorua too... i could be at any TH on a sunday and have to be hitting the dusty back sometime the following saturday. if that fits anywhere in your schedule, CB, then great, if not then have a great hike.. and we still have deam. :)
last edited: 6/14/09 9:49:27 PM”

“Can you tell me or give me a rough idea of what the first 5-6 days of the hike will be like, compared to the section from Liberty Springs to Mt Washington/Gorham?

hanover to franconia notch (the road crossing right before liberty springs) is a good warm-up for franconia to gorham

I'd join you on the 11th, If I can't work, then I would join you on the 5th. But, like I mentioned, I won't know this until at least 1 month beforehand.

dont worry about it. we'll make it work. 1 month is plenty of time

if you end up having to do the hanover to franconia section with me, we can either do hanover to franconia in 6 days, hanover to glencliff in 4 days, or we can tack on a day in vermont and do west hartford to glencliff in 5 days. i seem to remember that as being a pretty section. no grand vistas, just deep dark woods (the vermont section, i mean) there are some nice views right before glencliff

why don't you give us your itinerary and we all work around it.

i think ive pretty much done that: i plan on starting at hanover some time in the first week of july, and finishing at stratton the last week of july. i probably have the most flexibility of anyone, since i wont be working during the summer (im a part-time college student and substitute teacher), therefore i prefer to mold my trip around what other hikers can do. if i know what everyones time constraints are, as well as their capabilities, where they are wanting to hike, etc, i can plan around everyone, since i am familiar with the area and have the guidebook
last edited: 6/15/09 8:27:09 AM”

“Well don't plan anything around me. I'm strictly armchair hiking at the moment. I'll have no idea what time I can or cannot get off up until at least a few months before the trip.”

“.. to make solid plans this far ahead, i find impossible in the life's situation i'm in right now.. just not possible

of course, youre right, this is all subject to change. it's just fun to talk about. i dont expect any sort of commitment from anyone. im going whether anyone else is or not, but id be happy to accomodate anyone who wants to go, and answer any questions they have. the AT is one of my favorite subjects in the world, i never get tired of talking about it.

i'm interested in either i95 to PN or us302 to PN as i may want to wander washington and surrounds for some time too.. possibly chocorua too... i could be at any TH on a sunday and have to be hitting the dusty back sometime the following saturday.

im sure we can make it work.

like i said, right now, we're just talking about possibilities. we have a whole year before we have to firm up plans, so no sweat”

“dont worry, zac, i aint holdin nobody to nothin. we aint planning, just talking”

“BTW, I've been working on some maps of the area showing campsite and shelter locations in NG Topo!. I'm not all that impressed with the provided maps that came with the AMC guidebooks.”

“CB, we're on and figure something out solid as 2010 rolls around. :)

the more i think about all this i am starting to think 302 on.. so i can go poke around tuckermans and huntington and other areas..

in your original post you mentioned "side trips"... what did you have in mind?”

“If the weather is right - I'd definitely recommend a side trip to the Bonds. Some argue it offers the best views in the Whites. You could even set up at Guyot shelter and catch a sunset if you hit it right.”

“in your original post you mentioned "side trips"... what did you have in mind?�

nothing major, its just that some of the peaks in the prezzies and franconia ridge are off the AT. 1/2 mile here, mile there, whatever. if anyone has any other good suggestions, id be up for that, too. ped's suggestion sounds like a good one. ive heard before that the bonds are good”

“hmmmmmmm”

“I kind of like this Bonds idea.. hmmm indeed. :D”

“I was thinking the Bonds as well.”

“what are the names of the peaks in the bonds? i saw bond mt not far from guyot campsite, but not a whole lot of others”

“Bond, West Bond, and Bond Cliff.

http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=44.14064,-71.54057&z=14&t=T&marker0=44.14889%2C-71.64500%2CMount%20Lincoln%20NH&marker1=44.15290%2C-71.53121%2C2.9%20km%20WxSW%20of%20White%20Mountain%20National%20Forest%20NH&marker2=44.15274%2C-71.54717%2C3.9%20km%20S%20of%20South%20Twin%20Mountain%20NH&marker3=44.14064%2C-71.54057%2C4.3%20km%20SW%20of%20White%20Mountain%20National%20Forest%20NH”

“what about james bond?

it would be great to be able to make it all the way to guyot campsite the day after liberty spring, then get up early the next day and climb the bonds before continuing down the AT
last edited: 6/16/09 7:20:00 AM”

“Pennsy's pics from the Bonds

http://community.webshots.com/album/356822820wNqZKI”

“nice.. i think i may have to be in on that. :D
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“Crash - I'm curious. Why start in West Hartford? (as opposed to Hanover or Norwich or...).”

“A comment. I assume you mean the "Flume Slide Trail" (not "side" trail). You should know this gets very steep and is not as a whole "more gradual" than Liberty Springs. It should be fine for ascent, but probablyqorth skipping if conditions are particularly wet.

As an indication of its steepness in places, it's generally considered not appropriate for descent.”

“why start in west hartford? i liked that stretch between there and hanover



You should know this gets very steep and is not as a whole "more gradual" than Liberty Springs.

well then, itll be something different to do”

“No criticisms there. Thanks for the responses.

Another benefit of Flume Slide is you come right up to the summit of Flume as well as Liberty.”

“thats another reason”

“Crash do you really GAF what other people think anyway?”

“everybody except you”

“Communication always works better when you have an interest in knowing what other people think.

Actually, Stick's question gives some insight into TT. People talking at each other without having much interest in what the others are saying.

I asked Crash the questions because I do GAF what he thinks - not that I'll always agree, but he's been through that neighborhood before and he's given some thought about what he's going to do.
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“Crash... I'm still interested in some coordination if you decide to do more in Vermont.”