Deam Bushwack in April

“this will be april 3-6, camping on fri, sat, and sun nights

if you cant come for the whole thing, it will be easy to leave early or come late. if you have to come late, i can give you directions to find the campsite

this hike starts at hayes trailhead, but does not take hayes trail. instead, bushwack east to where saddle creek meets the lake. then contour around the lake to the east side of the peninsula and camp at "the thumb". continue the next day to the mouth of axsom creek. there are a couple of abandoned homesteads in the area if youre interested in that sort of thing. the next day continue on to the east side of the lake. last day, hike out past camp peeper and finish at the firetower

coyote and i did an abbreviated version of this several weeks ago and had a blast. this time there will be less trail-hiking and more bushwacking”

“I am down as a maybe at this point.”

“lol. that was supposed to be a maybe. not used to this forum just yet.”

“offtrack, click on "change my status" near the top of the page, and you can change to a maybe”

“ok, cool. thanks”

“camp peeper? what's that? is that what you guys call the large fire pond area?

and 2 homesteads? i can't think of the second. hmm”

“camp peeper is the pond by terrel cemetary. it was thus named by chinmusic

coyote820 and i found a lesser known homestead in a holler just off of axsom. theres not very much left, just the corners and a few miscellaneous stuff. i can show you on the map where it is”

“I remember that trip! Something like 11 or us that camped back there at the height of tree frog season. You had to scream at people sitting right next to you.”

“camp peeper is the pond by terrel cemetary.ok, i knew it. :D

didn't know about the other homestead but there is also another one NW of Terril and there are remants of the old school house on the peninsula (the thumb; there used to be more then just the foundation boulders but i think that's all's there now.”

“oh, i thought it was cause chin liked to watch people while they were sleeping in their tents”

“depending on the amount of precip. between now and then, there may be a long detour around Saddle Creek and its tributaries”

“well, then, wear your gaiters!”

““well, then, wear your gaiters!”

Or GO NAKED

That is why it's called a bushwack
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“you can wack your own bush”

“um, I'm talking about the water extending more than a mile south of the cave. and being several feet deep-beyond the capacity of most gaiters! And I'm very familiar with bushwhacking in Deam!
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“nah. you should be able to find a crossing near frog pond ridge, at the farthest.”

“well, then, get ready to be wet, or we'll just be sure to cross way south. either way, bring plenty of dry socks”

“i dont know that we can avoid knee-(or higher) deep water. hiking frog ridge gets you around saddle creek, but you still have the tributary coming in from the southeast. THAT tributary can be avoided by coming from blackwell and getting on the east side of it before it gets deep, but then there is still one coming from the east, and lots of other small ones

i plan on bringing sealskinz, gaiters, rainpants, and a couple pair dry socks

we'll manage”

“i've had to back track before but not that far. you just have to use your eyes and you can find a spot to jump across.”

“"“i dont know that we can avoid knee-(or higher) deep water. hiking frog ridge gets you around saddle creek, but you still have the tributary coming in from the southeast. THAT tributary can be avoided by coming from blackwell and getting on the east side of it before it gets deep, but then there is still one coming from the east, and lots of other small ones"

yep, that's exactly what I meant.
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“What are your campsite plans I might just canoe in.”

“the first night will be at the campsite that you and i found on the east side of the peninsula, the one that we said we should come back to some time. the second night would be the place we stayed at near the drum-banging fcktards. the third night would be that campsite you showed us when were paddling last summer, next to the trail that goes back up to camp peeper and the cemetary, or near that
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“Well all three Campsite would be great paddle or hike in”

“Heya Crash,

Thinking about this hike, but it will just be for the weekend. Not sure at this point if I will drive down late Friday night, and hike in, or Saturday morning. Where exactly is the camp Friday night, and where will you be hiking Saturday morning, and camping?”

“I may be able to come down on Saturday as well.”

“we might want to put together a "joiners" group...i'm gonna try to make saturday morning too”

“I could very easy be up for coming down Saturday, hiking into where ever the main group camps for the night, then hike out Sunday.”

“Crash Banger hope you got your car fixed and on the road Jake and I and a couple other boys are going to take their week of Spring Break and go down to Monroe for the whole week and kayak and canoe we are going to start our trek on Sunday March 29 either that morning or afternoon and we will camp at different campsites thru the week but would like to camp with you guys atleast on Friday and Saturday Night we will come off the water on Sunday Morning 4/5 I am selling the 2 smaller kayaks we have for $200 and Jakes kayak for $400 if you know anyone interested in buying one I know after the float trip you seemed like you might like to have a boat some time.I have a very bad case of Cabin Fever and I think this will be just what the doctor ordered for me to get out and get gone for the week and I traded my big canoes for a real nice solo lightweigh canoe and it will be more fun in a nice boat.

LET'S ROLL”

“i could bump this a day and start hiking saturday morning”

“Thrifty...You in for an overnight (in Saturday/out Sunday)? If so, and you don't mind starting Saturday, I can pick u up on the way down.

I don't know if I can make it yet, just thinking about it.”

“Crash how high was saddle creek when you guys were down there do you think I guy could float back to where the Grube crosses Saddle Creek?Going to start making so plans on where all we are going to camp the week we are going to be done on Sunday I never have camped back up that holler thought it could be something diffent we have 7 nights need to be creative.How about it?”

“Crash you coming in on Friday or Saturday we would like to camp with you all 1 night but I think we are putting in at Cutwright's boat ramp unless we change our mind and will need to be over near the peninusila on Saturday to make it out on Sunday if you don't come down until Saturday and camp at Axsom we'll just have to get with you another time or meet up up some time thru the day it would be too far to paddle out on Sunday.Camping on the Tumb would work good for us Uncle B would like to hook up with you he has lost about 55 pounds and wants to see if he can hang with the big dogs.”

“i am doing a thru-hike on the 2nd and 3rd of the knobstone trail. i can backpack on the 4th and 6th in the deam... is there an easy way i can hook up with the group? we expect to be done on friday evening. i guess i could be a late arrival on friday night but i'll be pretty pooped from hiking 1/2 the knobstone all day. i'll be good to go on saturday. a nights rest is all i need to recharge my batteries.”

“I'm thinking of driving down late Friday too. We could just hike in a little ways, and camp somewhere.”

“That would work. I am not that familiar with the area and don't want to mess up crashs trip. Where might we crash camp friday night?”

“Hey Crash where is the camp Friday Night?”

“I'll be taking my puppy to peeper pond for it's first backpacker in april...maybe I'll bump into y'all”

“"taking my puppy to peeper pond"... that sounds nasty”

“what about taking your peepee to pupper pond?”

“Crash,

Are you sticking to your hiking plan you have listed? If so, I'm sure whoever camps with Yogisan, and me late Friday can find you on Saturday. Just let us know.”

“Crash I am going down for the week and would like to hook up with you all but if we can't we can't we are going to put in at teh Cutwright Boat Ramp on Sunday Morning the 3/29 and we are coming out on Sat the 4/4 so that means for us we need to camp somewhere on the peninusla it would be better if we camped on the west so we could get out easy I think we are going to Basecamp in the Pine Woods to the North of the Tumb for the week I think that would be a nice place and we would be sheltered if the weather got nasty on us but we are not planning on camping on the tumb it would be a long week going that far for wood all week but anyhow I am going to leave my name on the trip and if we see ya we see ya and if not we'll get you on the next one.

Windi I think this is our plan for now unless something changes I think Mike and B are wanting to still come down Friday Morning but I think they are coming out Saturday Also.Call me”

“the thumb? where is that?”

“the thumb is right next to the finger.”

“Coyote,

Have a great time. Maybe we'll see ya.”

“I'm still a strong maybe for this trip. If I come, I will probably come in late Friday as well, maybe around 8-9ish. I'll check back here for camp details. I should be able to find you wherever you are. You can smell Crash's KFC from miles away! :)”

“I'll be boating this trip along with Coyote and Uncle B. We will be meeting you at the campsites each night.”

“coyote820: talked to crash...do you have the coordinates "the thumb"?”

“(he says this is friday nights camp)”

“I think this is close. N39 04 34.9 W86 22 29.4”

“Per Crash Bang


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