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“At least ya figured out how to post a picture fukctard. :)”
“LOL! He should change his name to Haywood Jateachmesimplecode.”
“Ford, Toyota and Honda do not get bailouts and sales are up, GM and Chrylser get bailout and sales fall. Is there a pattern emerging here?”
“GM and Chryler both should have been shot.”
“There was no bail out. There was payola for the Union.”
What a scam!
“Car Czar: ‘I Did it All for the Unions’?
“So, all of that $'s spent to buy Government for BIGBIZ didn't turn out very well? What are they going to do with their newly purchased Government on which they've already blamed everything?”
“Auto sales are growing so fast that Detroit can barely keep up.
Three years after the U.S. auto industry nearly collapsed, sales of cars and trucks are surging. Sales could exceed 14 million this year, above last year's 12.8 million.
The result: Carmakers are adding shifts and hiring thousands of workers around the country. Carmakers and parts companies added more than 38,000 jobs last year, reaching a total of 717,000. And automakers have announced plans to add another 13,000 this year, mostly on night shifts.
“Stovie? Isn't the smoke supposed to go out the top, not be blown up the rear end again and again and again....”
“I just read somewhere that the 'Suburban is still GMs best selling vehicle'. Not sure if it's true or not.”
“All EVs have taken a hit this year. They are not very economical.
The Suburban is not GMs best selling vehicle. The Silverado pickup by far.
2011 and 2010 numbers (respectively):
Suburban: 49,427 45,152 9.5% increase.
Silverado: 415,130 370,135 12.2% increase.
However, what drive the pick up in this instance, and has been the case for many, many years, is that these vehicles are mostly for contractors and commercial use. Fleet sales may or may not be in those numbers. To me it looks like it is overall sales. Any way, the last few years have been a boon for trucks because contractors and commercial folk have had to hang on to their trucks a lot longer because of the poor economy. These trucks are now at their ultimate mileage amount (around 200,000 +) and need to be replaced; repairs will start to make it fiscally unsound to keep these vehicles at this point.
There are a few folks out there that will drive a Silverado just for show but they by far the minority.
The most encouraging news is that more people, by far, choose to buy a Chevy Cruze as a passenger vehicle.
Cruze: 231,732 24,495 846.0% increase.
Further, when you look at the numbers objectively, it's very easy to see that there is a huge move away from clunkier cars like the Suburban and toward the Crossovers and small GM vehicles.
BTW - I happen to see the new Acadia in the at the Design Center the other day, and it looks really nice. The new Sonic looks pretty cool, too.
FWIW: My source: http://media.gm.com/content/Pages/news/us/en/2012/Jan/gmsales/_jcr_content/rightpar/sectioncontainer/par/download/file.res/Deliveries%20December%202011.pdf”
“Oh Q, quit seeing what you want to see....”
“Seems at odds with this USA today story;
Full-size Chevy Suburban SUV was up 36.6%. Chevrolet Colorado, midsize pickup being discontinued, was up 35.5%. Chevy Equinox, mid-=size SUV, was 15.7% ahead of the year-ago period."
I notice your link says US deliveries and not total sales. IIRC GM sold 2.5 million cars to China alone.”
“What's that supposed to mean?”
“I notice your link says US deliveries and not total sales. IIRC GM sold 2.5 million cars to China alone.
I referenced that in my post. Also, the original post was not clear about what sale were being posted. Therefore, a general response to a general post.
Further, your link is about this year. I was clearly pointing out one year difference in sales; not just the first two months of this year. Both of our numbers reflect that GM is doing just fine without the Volt sales. Further, in years past, GM would be bullheaded and produce crap that people didn't want, then discount it. At least now, a few workers are idled instead of a bad product being an anchor around it's neck.
Speaking up, despite the great profit and sale number from last year; GM has order budget cuts to every department.”
“Means GM sells cars to places other than the US.”
“Clearly I am multitasking (thus breaking my New Year's resolution); my spelling is a victim of this today as well.
Further, my post "what's that ... " is directed at Mr. dood.”
“People still want the Suburban, that's my point. Sales of the Suburban up despite losing incentives.
It is a product for which Japan has no comparable vehicle, or anyone else really. It's a tried and true success for GM.”
“1camper -- absolutely, I agree with your point.
The Suburban is a status symbol vehicle. We have to remember that the recession hasn't been the pits for everyone. There is a ton of people out there making a ton of money.
Hell, in this little town of Detroit, where everywhere you look some budget crisis is going on, there is a ton of money that is walking around this town.
Apparently the guy who designed and facilitated South Beach and New York's SoHo is here and ready to drop about 1.5 Billion on this town in development. Quicken Loans dude is buying up everything he can right now.”
“Cool..so if i start my own car company.
and i fail..i can count on uncle sam to save me..gonna raise some horses and build some buggies..mayne B.O. will swing bye and check out my gas free enterprise”
“Secret service uses suburbans alot..i wonder if they/we get a deal”
“Status symbol. I don't know about that. Maybe for some, but it's a real useful vehicle.
Holds about 9 people and gets close to 20 mpg in the small V8 option. Also a good tow vehicle. I don't think it's going away until gas really goes up alot more.”
“"Cool..so if i start my own car company.
and i fail..i can count on uncle sam to save me.."
Nope; you would be small enough to fail.”
“Just like tiny GM did..makes no sense silly”
“"“Just like tiny GM did..makes no sense silly”
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Ummmmm, just what is the point of those last two posts, Moonshine?”
“BTW - -GM was far larger than some small start up. In fact, there have been a couple of small start up EV companies that have went belly up and the government did not step in and save them.”
“Lol well duh”
“Maybe a super smart mod can explain it to ya..eeeer smoke another”
“Maybe a super smart mod can explain it to ya..eeeer smoke another"
Ummmm, not following you. Why does a Moderator have to explain content in your post? Further, are you capable of providing a response without a fag remark and/or a pot smoking accusation?”
“The Suburban is a status symbol vehicle.
For some, sure, but so are a LOT of vehicles, even the dinky save-the-planet ones. #ThingsILearnedByWatchingSouthPark”
“Oh no, you killed Kenny!”
“"Hey Q..soon as you sign up for a hike.ill be there in person to explain it to ya.."
"ill be at trail days."
Cool, have loads of fun.
"ill keep my eyes out for your next trip."
Well, you're going to be waiting an awfully long time. I don't post trips here anymore and will not for the foreseeable future.”
“Well at least we have you here to explain how to properly view Government Motors, lol.”
“"Well at least we have you here to explain how to properly view Government Motors, lol."
ummmm, sure thing, buddy.”
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