Can you oppose the war and support the T roops

“Sass, don't keep us waiting several days like birch has. You've accused me of not answering questions. Be specific.

Oh, and while you're at it, when are you going to answer the question of why you think everybody on that other thread works for the government? I'm afraid answering it truthfully will reveal you were lying, so if that's the case, just admit you were lying and we'll move on.”

“jeeze why dont you guys just DO IT and get it over with?”

“No thank you!!”

“Just amazing that I'm sitting here waiting for 2 answers (one from both of them), and her response is that I don't answer questions, so it's my fault. LOL! What a joke those two are. Will we ever hear which question of birch's I have refused to answer .... (holding breath) ... of course not.

Those 2 throw out accusations left and right, but when it comes time to back them up ... /silence/ - and then blame me for their silence. LMAO!



last edited: 10/31/07 6:01:38 AM”

“I've answered your question. You must not have been paying attention. I even told you why I specifically mentioned government workers. But you never answered when I asked you if you are a government worker. It's really not that important though. Nothing to get worked up over this early in the morning.”

“I've answered your question. You must not have been paying attention. I even told you why I specifically mentioned government workers.

Yeah, you told me why you specifically mentioned government workers - but you didn't answer my question which is why you thought ALL of the people on the thread were government workers, which was the whole point. You pretended like you were just making a general comment about all the people on that thread, but it makes no logical sense why you'd just suddenly, in the middle of a random thread, accuse the people of posting on there as wasting government money due to posting online as government workers. What don't you understand about that question? You were starting a pissing contest, but you won't admit it - and worse yet, you then turned it around and accused me of starting the pissing contest. The reality is (and it would be obvious if you'd give an honest answer to my question), that it is YOU who ALWAYS start crap between you and me. It's a simple question, but by lying, it's easier for you to live in this false reality you've constructed for you and your friends.

But you never answered when I asked you if you are a government worker.

What post is that? Anyways, I wouldn't answer a personal question like that (to you at least) anyways! Why would I? What does that have to do with a political discussion such as this? You're comparing me (supposedly) not answering a personal question about my employment to a question in the middle of a political discussion? You've got to be kidding!



last edited: 10/31/07 6:15:48 AM”

“D!CKS! YOU'RE ALL D!CKS! - Tommy Vercetti”

“What it has to do with is why you'd get so upset over something so silly. I figure you must be a government worker yourself, who plays on TT all day long, or have very low self esteem, or maybe you feel you need to defend the honor of government workers who fart around on the internet all day long everywhere. Since you won't answer my question I'm not answering any of yours. =P Have a nice day and don't forget your blood pressure meds.”

“whos on first?”

“What it has to do with is why you'd get so upset over something so silly.

First off, you're assuming I'm upset. I'm not. I am on the other hand exposing you bit by bit for the fraud you are.

Anybody with reason knows that answering a personal question like that is not anything like answering questions in the middle of a political discussion like birch and I were in. There is no comparison.

Also, the other thing it has to do with is that you lied. You are lying about the fact that you were singling (trying to) one person by saying you were addressing everybody. That makes no sense in the context of that thread. It's a lie.

The other thing it has to do with is that you won't admit you lied. You and birch accuse me of not admitting to things (with no specific examples, just accusations), but this is a very specific example of something you are not admitting to ... your lie.

Another thing is that none of this has to do with birch, and you are obviously trying to distract from the fact that birch is unwilling to answer a direct question about an accusation (are we seeing a theme yet?) which has no basis in fact.

It's the seriousness of the accusation, not the validity of the charge, right?

You can pretend to have good intentions all you want, but the reality when presented is much different. Just look at your last post with all of the personal attacks thrown in. Instead of answering a direct question about an accusation of yours, you instead throw around more insults. You're a one act pony, and you're wrong. Your perception of reality is wrong. Your perception of right and wrong is wrong. Your acts of trying to gather people behind you to support your false accusations are wrong. You are a fraud ... and I have exposed plenty of proof right here. That is what this is has to do with. It has to do with defending what is right.
last edited: 10/31/07 6:30:24 AM”

“hehe”

“birch - once again - go back to the post that begins "For the record, here is what I DID say, this time in context."

You made a claim that I said something that I didn't say, so why are you unwilling to address it when presented with the facts (the actual quote, not your re-ordered out of context quote) of what was said? In fact, my point was obviously contrary to the way you misinterpreted it when you read it as written.”

“Is a fraud with boobs really a fraud?

btw, doesn't birch work during the day?
last edited: 10/31/07 6:42:02 AM”

“Hi might, so that's why I keep reposting the question since people keep trying to change the subject to personal matters. Not trying to push him by asking the question again, but it keeps getting pushed back a few pages.”

“Never say die.

I hope you achieve the satisfaction you seek.”

“Crazy for tryin'
And crazy for cryin'
And crazy for postin' on this thread”

“ductape - Would you say the same to Sassafras? She's starting it ... I'm finishing it. Why aren't you being critical of her who is obviously instigating all of this? double standard

By the way ... LOL ... I found the original thread. The HYSTERICAL thing is that in this thread Sass said that birch isn't answering my questions (about supporting the troops) BECAUSE I didn't answer her question on the other thread about where I work. Wellll .... turns out the question I didn't answer was HER answer to this same question I've been asking her on this thread about how she could think everybody works for the government. In other words, instead of answering my question (which was asked first), she answered it with a question. I even called her on it at the time by saying "Answering a question with a question? It was a simple question."

BUSTED! So her whole premise even on this thread is wrong. SHE was the one not anwering the question to begin with.

Want proof?

http://thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/49368,,5.php

“Oh, I got it. But you gave an explanation along with it, which doesn't make sense. Why do you think that everybody posting on this thread is a government worker? Who is buying this? (besides Tilt)
last edited: 9/26/07 11:17:26 AM”
Sarge
11:30:55 AM
9/26/07

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“I could take the time to respond but you won't accept my answer. I gave you what you asked for and it's not enough.”
Sassafras
11:38:27 AM
9/26/07


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“Your answer makes no sense. I'll take any answer that makes sense, but if you put nonsense in it, how could anybody accept it?

You said that everyone on here is a government worker? Seriously? You believe that? Come on.

That's like saying "I was referring to everybody on this thread, and they are all gym teachers." It's nonsense. You might as well write in Chinese.

This isn't difficult. I'm pretty sure this is very clear. You accuse me of saying I won't accept your answer, but that's just not so. Any reasonable person knows it's nonsense to think that everybody on this thread is a government worker.”
Sarge
11:42:58 AM
9/26/07


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“So, you are a government worker Sarge? What government do you work for?”
Sassafras
11:45:46 AM
9/26/07

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“Answering the question with a question? It was a simple question.”
Sarge
12:03:11 PM
9/26/07”

“good grief ... This is endless. Half the posts are + signs in white boxes, the other half are posts about the poster with + boxes. Can't we get back to gutting the unamerican pigs who want to deny our fighting men their beans and bullets?”

“Another unprovoked attack by hyway. typical

Hi Hyway! I see you peaking!”

“"Hi Hyway! I see you peaking!"

Trippin'?”

“hi hyway i see you queefing!”

“Peek-a-BOO!!!”

“What is it about Sarge that causes Hyway to "peak"?

Sarge, just a question (if it's possible with you); if both Sass and Birch were to get down on bended knee and admit to whatever you are so convinced they should admit, would you be happy?

I'm speculating that you would feel a temporary sense of triumph, lasting about 15 seconds, and quickly be on to your next windmill. I don't see any happiness in doggedly pursuing stuff like this, no matter what the outcome... Truly, it saddens me.”

“markO I don't have you on ignore. I see all your posts all teh time”

“Oh crap!!!”

“Nimblefoot - Happy? No. Satisfied. Yes.

Here's a question for you now. (I answered yours...)

Why did you not say anything to Sassafras or birch about the harassing they are instigating with me? I have ONLY been responding to their harassing posts, yet you chose to single me out and criticize what I've done, someone who is only responding to them. Why? Why ignore what they've done?”

“I am glad we can agree on what I see in your posts ;)”

“winkie winkie

(rolls eyes)”

“HyWay........pssst!

(I don't care what any of you boobless people think)”

“Nimblefoot - The ironic thing about your question is that you are making my point. Sassafras and birch have been instigating this type of harassing behavior, and I have defended what the truth is. Ironically, you have had nothing to do with this, yet you have come along and have made the same point that I've been making. In addition, I have been trying to get to the bottom of the exact cause (quotes) of all of this, while your way of handling it (somebody who had nothing to do with it - someone that nobody was provoking to begin with) was to come along and making personal jabs at me, like the 'windmill' comment and the 'saddens me' comment.

Don't you find it interesting that you felt compelled to do something about this, although you were not mentioned in any of the posts - yet when I do it after being personally targeted, you found fault with that. All the while, finding no fault in the actual people who are instigating any of this!

Amazing. That truly saddens me.”

“Now you're in for it, Nimblefoot.”

“Sarge, it's because I don't see them pursuing it to the gates of hell. It's a pattern of yours; you with virtually with anyone and Sass and Birch with only you (if that).”

“Sarge, it's because I don't see them pursuing it to the gates of hell.

Then maybe you're not reading. For example, on this thread, Sassafras was targeting me with her picture of Dysfunction. She'll deny it, but that's what that was about. I ignored that! Then she went on and brought up something from another thread (something that was wrong by the way).

Did I bring that up? No. Was I pursuing her? No.

So, how could you not have seen all that?
last edited: 10/31/07 8:25:38 AM”

“and ironically, you didnt get the message”

“... more unprovoked personal attacks ...”

“Actually, Sarge, you're proving MY point. MarkO's right (don't tell him), I've become another windmill. If I continue to respond, this will also continue to the gates of hell and beyond. That being so, I am done with it.”

“I wish Burger King would come back with their seasoned fries. i forget what they called them but the fries came with a season packet that you shook over them.”

“That MSG stuff will make ya crazy.”

“So, you won't address the fact that Sassafras started this TWICE, before I responded to her - and yet you said nothing to her .... then after accusing me of being the instigator, even though she clearly was, times two, you say you're done with it - end of discussion, no explanation necessary?

More accusations ... more running away from defending them ....

It's easy for you to claim the victim here, that you've become my windmill ... but the reality is that you made an unsubstantiated charge against me, then were completely unwilling to defend it. All in an apparent attempt to do exactly what you're complaining to me about. You're doing nothing but stirring things up. If you had any credibility, you'd explain why you ignored Sassafrass's TWO posts that instigated this against me. But like you said, you're done with this.

double standards
last edited: 10/31/07 8:34:28 AM”

“Hey, that Tilting Routine is copyrighted ----

I always liked the metaphor of the alligator snapping turtle holding on until lightning struck.

You guys need to get back on topic ---- what would the troops think?”

“birch - once again - go back to the post that begins "For the record, here is what I DID say, this time in context."

You made a claim that I said something that I didn't say, so why are you unwilling to address it when presented with the facts (the actual quote, not your re-ordered out of context quote) of what was said? In fact, my point was obviously contrary to the way you misinterpreted it when you read it as written.”

“Ductape, he's off work today for two appointments. Neither of us have internet access at work.”

“nimble, I refuse to peek (because the temptation to become a windmill is just to great) but I bet Sarge's last post is about 6 paragraphs long that dissects every sentence in your post. 4 for each sentence plus an opening barrage and a final paragraph to gloat how he is better than everyone else because he can answer people's questions without being mean.”

“Notice how hyway is STILL making personal attacks against me, even though I've completely been ignoring him - yet he thinks he somehow has the moral high-ground?

You guys are rich!

People have emailed me saying I'm right in this - but like I've responded, nobody has the balls to say it publically. Stick up for what is right people. The proof is here. The double standards are out of control. Yes, Hyway is wrong - but say it publically, not just in emails. The lying by Sassafras and others is out of control. You know it - now call them on it and put an end to this injustice.
last edited: 10/31/07 8:41:10 AM”

“What happens when a control freak loses control?

In the ditch?

Upside a tree?”

“how are you completely ignoring hyway? every time he trolls you, you say something back”

“What I mean is that I don't say anything to provoke him - I ignore him. I do respond to his personal attacks though once provoked (primarily by just pointing out that it was unprovoked). Nobody has the balls to point that out though, at least on the forum.

Hyway has been doing this for 2 years now, ever since he said I would treat retarded people poorly based on something entirely different I had said about having respect for theater patrons. I have the link if you want it. It (he) is sad really. He's an oversensitive, overimaginative, instigator.
last edited: 10/31/07 8:49:08 AM”

“the last thing hyway is, is sensitive

ha!”