Mitt Romney

“Queer...looks different.. same, same.

So you think Barry, a political neophyte, rides into Chicago and gets elected Senator from Illinois without the blessings of the mob so infamously is tied to Illinois politics. You're living in a dreamworld. ...Further evidenced by the fact you think the economic collapse has ended. But please, carry on.”

“"So you think Barry, a political neophyte, rides into Chicago and gets elected Senator from Illinois without the blessings of the mob so infamously is tied to Illinois politics. You're living in a dreamworld."


More opinion presented as fact. Shows you really don't have a good foundation for your feelings; only hyperbole, empty rhetoric and baseless claims. Perhaps if you supported your posits you could be taken a little more seriously. Until then it's nothing but a bunch of "derp, derp, blah, blah, blah".

"Further evidenced by the fact you think the economic collapse has ended. But please, carry on."

I could just as simply state that the sky is orange; doesn't make it a fact. Much like this comment, and most of your other "contributions", continues to prove my point vis a vis an uniformed, lazy consumer of information.”

“Corporatism will fail without the fed and the IRS's loophole filter. Tax exempt health care and Pentagon remodeling will be the final straw to remove corporate control of this once great nation. MBAs should all be in rehab for greed addiction, in the room next to the recovering religious addicts.”

“What do you want Q? I link that supports Chicagolands crooked politics? Lol.

Hey, I ve linked many items that support my opinion the financial problems aren't over and that the current course is unsustainable. How about you tell us how it is? Endless wars and welfare spending...

If you really believe the country elected Barack Obama to show anyone can go to the top, well, that's crazy. I don't think you believe that, I think your an apologists for one side consistently.

I mean, I call Mitt a rapist and you don't come to his defense.. who else is calling him a rapist but me?

I just think its weird to assault someone like that...who would do that? ..and not remember? BS”

“"What do you want Q? I link that supports Chicagolands crooked politics? Lol"

Some support to your spurious claim. You're claiming that the Chicago "mob" got Obama into office. I'd like to see some of that evidence. You must have gotten something from somewhere. Put your "facts" where your mouth is.

"Hey, I ve linked many items that support my opinion the financial problems aren't over and that the current course is unsustainable. How about you tell us how it is? Endless wars and welfare spending..."

Sure you have. I read this board almost every single day. If you've posted that information it shouldn't be that hard for you to repost it. You should remember the threads you posted it on. This "I've already supported ... " doesn't fly. It's weak and lazy.

Even the most casual consumer of information knows that consumer confidence is high, the stock market is comparable to post economic collapse numbers, adding jobs, unemployment claims are down, the housing market has stabilized and the automotive companies are healthier than they have been since 2007/2008. Unless you're living under a rock or purposefully/willfully ignorant it's very easy to see that things are a lot better than they were during the end of Bush's tenure.

"If you really believe the country elected Barack Obama to show anyone can go to the top, well, that's crazy. I don't think you believe that, I think your an apologists for one side consistently."

Again, I think you are a very poor consumer of information. It's clear that you cannot comprehend the written word. I didn't say that; you're putting words where they were not spoken. It is also very clear that your filter fails your mindset. You have no idea how this world spins; I suggest you really comprehend what is said to you.

"I mean, I call Mitt a rapist and you don't come to his defense.. who else is calling him a rapist but me?"

Why would I come to his defense? I don't like the person; why would I defend something that reprehensible? You're talking in circles and make zero sense.

"I just think its weird to assault someone like that...who would do that? ..and not remember? BS"

Boy, you're really all over the place today. I think you really need to step away from your keyboard and get a full breath of fresh air. These discombobulated statements are not doing you any good at this point.”

“Hey DB, I'm not asking you to take me seriously. But here's a free history lesson.

Lurking in the background of the Blagojevich criminal case is a casino license that was to be auctioned off. The license was by far the most valuable asset Blagojevich had control over. Blagojevich wanted the casino built in the Chicago Mob dominated suburb of Rosemont. The Chicago Mob also wanted the casino built there. In November of 2005, Blagojevich brought in Eric Holder to give Rosemont a clean bill of health. Holder and Blagojevich had a news conference outside the Thompson Building, which is in the old First Ward.

The mob connection extends beyond the Blagojevich case. In their drive to retain President Obama's U.S. Senate seat, the frontrunner is Obama’s friend, Alexi Giannoulis. He is so tainted by Chicago Mob allegations that Illinois Democratic Party Chairman Mike Madigan refused to endorse him in a past race for State Treasurer.

As the Senate race heats up, these connections between the Chicago machine and the mob could prove embarrassing at least for the man the machine has helped elevate to the White House.

http://www.newgeography.com/content/00955-origins-and-growth-al-capone%E2%80%99s-outfit-chicago%E2%80%99s-first-ward-democratic-organization-and”

“Q - " It shows that we as a country and culture can move beyond racist methods and shows the rest of the world that in the United States, yes, anyone can become President.".

Since I can't understand the written word, care to explain this to me. This doesn't mean anyone can make it to the top? It's totally ridiculous BS.”

“Q, despite your foaming at the mouth, or perhaps because of it, nobody's buying the bull$h1t anymore. It's over man. You're flumbling all over yourself Dude, it's pathetic and so revealing of your desperation.

Over it”

“This thread has so many red herrings it should be the fishing thread. Everyone's catching a different fish but you're all using the same lures, lol.


PS: try to keep the insults and nastiness to somewhere around zero, please. The newer kindler gentler TT doesn't like it.”

““dOOd, despite your foaming at the mouth, or perhaps because of it, nobody's buying the bull$h1t anymore. It's over man. You're flumbling all over yourself Dude, it's pathetic and so revealing of your desperation.

Over it””

“"Since I can't understand the written word, care to explain this to me. This doesn't mean anyone can make it to the top? It's totally ridiculous BS."

My statement is very clear and does not need any further explanation. If it's unclear to you; not my problem.

"Q, despite your foaming at the mouth, or perhaps because of it, nobody's buying the bull$h1t anymore. It's over man. You're flumbling all over yourself Dude, it's pathetic and so revealing of your desperation.

Over it"


LOL!


Desperation? Yeah, that's me alright. I guess if I posted links to some whack-ass fringe websites you'd believe.

FLMAO!

You're the one is trying daily to force the "facts" into a paranoid "collapse theory".

You've been pending "predicting doom" for the last 4 years now with no return.

I can only take the sandwich board guy seriously for so long (and usually not that long). After a while they deserve to be mocked.”

“Facts Myth, this ain't a beauty contest being judged by Joe Smith.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/15/mitt-romney-debt-speech-inferno_n_1519253.html”

“There is some misleading information in that link.

As the information in my post from governmentspending.com shows in the Economy Stupid thread; the debt was paid off or lowered during some Presidents. While it's not fair to claim that "all Presidents up till Obama racked up $$$ ...", the statemen in the article is true that under Obama the debt has increased roughly 5T while the debt he inherited was at roughly 10T; further is is also true that under Reagan the debt tripled.”

“Q- My statement is very clear and does not need any further explanation. If it's unclear to you; not my problem.

Your statement is a piece of delusional propoganda. "Anyone can become President" Uh, no they can't. Just ask Perot, Forbes, Trump, Kerry, Hillary, Guliani..

What you need to become President is organization. In President Obama's case, the organization is old and criminal.”

“"Your statement is a piece of delusional propoganda. "Anyone can become President" Uh, no they can't. Just ask Perot, Forbes, Trump, Kerry, Hillary, Guliani.."


No it's not. They had a shot at becoming President. In fact Perot was prolly the closet shot at a third party we've seen in a very long time.

All of them could have become President; they failed because they didn't have a good message. They all had organization and money; it was their mouth that eliminated them, not the lack of organization. Hell, the Republicans basically gave the nomination to Giuliani but he phucked it up. Hillary voted for the Iraqi war, Kerry was a flip flopper, Trump is a whacky birther, Teve Torbes is a flat taxer, etc.

They all had a very rich organization. It was their messaging that did them in.

"What you need to become President is organization. In President Obama's case, the organization is old and criminal."


Another opinion presented as fact. You've yet to prove any of those claims, and it's a shame that you choose to continue to erode your creditability by making comments like that. Obama presented something different than what the Republicans offered. McCain went too far right, and Palin screwed the pooch and Palin did in what was left. Obama was able to motivate the Independent vote to his side through messaging, and capitalized on a failed Republican offering. The money Obama raised was a record amount, mostly through nickle and dimes. Yes, he did get some contributions from Wall Street and other backers; as did the Dummatic Duo. The Independents is what swayed that election, not some supposed conspricy from Chicago.

If that were true, why haven't the Democrat dominated the Presidency in the last 40 years?”

“Money is not organization. How many electoral votes did Ross Perot get?

Q - " Another opinion presented as fact."


....then goes on to write "You've yet to prove any of those claims, and it's a shame that you choose to continue to erode your creditability by making comments like that. Obama presented something different than what the Republicans offered. McCain went too far right, and Palin screwed the pooch and Palin did in what was left. Obama was able to motivate the Independent vote to his side through messaging, and capitalized on a failed Republican offering. The money Obama raised was a record amount, mostly through nickle and dimes. Yes, he did get some contributions from Wall Street and other backers; as did the Dummatic Duo. The Independents is what swayed that election, not some supposed conspricy from Chicago."

Too funny! If independents swing the election why is Obama not reaching out to them? Gay marriage? Oh, that'll get the independents. Obama won because the republicans sucked, still do. So its his to lose from my perspective.

Oh, and quit worrying about my credibility. Why do you care? I sure as hell don't care about yours.”

“"Money is not organization. How many electoral votes did Ross Perot get?"

Wrong. Money = organization and vise versa. Look at Romney. Has a lot of money, has a lot of organization. People will not give money if you do not have a solid organization. Obviously you cannot grasp even the simplest of political concepts.

"...then goes on to write ..."

What's your point? Those events are recorded in regularly available websites, from conservative to liberal. Your red herring is to avoid my charge to you vis a vis "If that were true, why haven't the Democrat dominated the Presidency in the last 40 years?". So you cannot back up your claim and form a red herring in order to save a little face.


"Too funny! If independents swing the election why is Obama not reaching out to them? Gay marriage? Oh, that'll get the independents. Obama won because the republicans sucked, still do. So its his to lose from my perspective."

IMHO, Obama has reached out to them; however, he pissed off the gay/les faction when he didn't come right out and support equal rights for all on the onset. He threw them a bone with "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" but they wanted the full monty. The Independents include folks who have swayed back to the TBer Republican side due to a "gamblers mentality"; they're desperate.

I don't care about your credibility. My statement is merely point out the obvious, and provides yet another opportunity for you to prove my point by not being able to offer anything in return except for nasty/terse hyperbole and empty rhetoric.”

“Q - " I don't care about your credibility. My statement is merely point out the obvious, and provides yet another opportunity for you to prove my point by not being able to offer anything in return except for nasty/terse hyperbole and empty rhetoric.”

You're the one tossing out insults, I give what I get.

You said Ross Perot had a chance of becoming President. That is ridiculous, again. He didn't get one electoral vote, not one. You do know that's how we elect Presidents right?

Money does not equal organization. That's how a community organizer with no money or experience becomes President.”

“"You said Ross Perot had a chance of becoming President. That is ridiculous, again. He didn't get one electoral vote, not one. You do know that's how we elect Presidents right?"

He certainly did. Of course he didn't get an electoral vote. You do know that the Electoral College is a double-check of the peoples vote placed by the Founders, right? They really didn't trust the "whole" of the people to be stupid.

Uncle Ross screwed himself. He dumped out; claiming a vast conspricy that included invasion of his daughters wedding. He then tried to jump back in but that damage was already done. In the end, he took enough Republican votes away to get Clinton elected. Thus, the same thing the Republicans did to the Democrats with Nader during the Bush/Kerry run.

"You're the one tossing out insults, I give what I get."

Am not. I'm only dropping some knowledge and pointing out the obvious. I don't think I have called you any names; unless TBer DB is something you fit into. You're the one who called me a DB first. Firing first, eh?

"Money does not equal organization. That's how a community organizer with no money or experience becomes President."

Again, no clue on how "it" all works. Money is what helped that guy get into office. He didn't "organize" his way to the Presidency. He had money, and a lot of it.”

“So there was a groundswell to elect Barack Obama in 2004? Or 2006? Of course not. Hillary was the presumptive nominee after Kerry lost. Until the organization decided against it.

Saying I "dont comprehend" you totally simplistic reasoning isn't an insult? Hey, if the DB fits..”

“"Saying I "dont comprehend" you totally simplistic reasoning isn't an insult?"

An insult? No. When you completely ignore what I've stated and go off into la la land, positing that you don't comprehend a statement that is written at the eighth grade level is merely pointing out the obvious as a means to highlight your mistake, and to facilitate deeper, and factually rooted, future responses from your keyboard.

Put simply, you should think about what you post before you post it so as not to make a fool out of yourself, that's all.


It's not like I called you a dumb ass so something ...”

“"So there was a groundswell to elect Barack Obama in 2004? Or 2006? Of course not."

Incorrect. After Obama spoke at the 2004 convention there was most definitely a ground swell for his Presidential run in 2008. The only things standing in his way was his one term as a Senator and Hillary. Far too many people (myself included) didn't think he had a chance in Hell against Hillary's cash and organization. However, what polarized the Democrat support was Hillary's vote on the Iraqi War. She supported it during a time when there was a great deal of Democrat folks (myself included) who were strongly against that failed action. Hillary was seen as "part of the problem"; Obama was seen as "part of the solution", pure and simple. Money then flowed into Obama's campaign coffers and the rest is, ahem, history.”

“You're forgetting the misogyny directed at Hillary. It was quite ugly, and true liberal bigotry was put on display very publicly. Contrast that to everyone tripping over themselves to show how not racist they were - LOL.”

“"You're forgetting the misogyny directed at Hillary. It was quite ugly, and true liberal bigotry was put on display very publicly."

What a loaded statement. lol.

Yes, there was (and still is) a great deal of mistrust and hatred toward her. I've soften on her (YIKES!) over the last few years. You can count me as one of those folks who would have applauded the driver of the she hopefully would step in front of. That whole Clinton thing back then was a fooking nightmare, and I had her up and her old man up there on the list right next to Nixon.

She acted like she was owed the nomination and Presidency, and how dare some young black guy take that away from her. She paid her dues, got dragged through the mud and she was looking for her pay off. I was glad when she lost out; however, I did think that if anything she would make a decent Secretary of State. My jury is still out on that one.

As far as tripping over myself to show that I'm not a racist by voting for Obama; in my case that is far from the truth and I don't know where Mutt's opinion presented as fact comes from.”

“It's fun to stand on the fulcrum of the teeter totter and watch the left and rite use each other to convince the masses this is freedom and liberty at work.”

“Word on the street is, Hillary will be the nominee in 2016...”

“"“Word on the street is, Hillary will be the nominee in 2016...”"

Doubt it; Biden will get the nod.

However, if Hillary does get the nod I will be voting third party for President.

I've never voted for a Bush or a Clinton, and there is very little that could change my mind.”

“and how dare some young black guy take that away from her.

Ah yes, must have been racism.”

“BIDEN muhahahahahahahahaha”

“Hillary Clinton will never be President. Too many people dislike her. Add to that a grating voice and condescending attitude, well, not happening. Kinda like Newt.

How exactly did Obama change course in Iraq Q?

He stayed on the same Bush timetable and even left the same people in charge. Anyone who voted for Obama because of Iraq must be disappointed. Then he ratchets up the wars. He signs orders giving new powers to arrest and hold us citizens without trial.

Where's the protest? Where's code pink? The "not in our name" crowd? The Lutherans?

You couldn't shut them up when Bush was President, now you can't find 'em. That's why organization is more important than money. You can't buy all that silence.”

“U still up 2 making good buddies, there Q?”

“"Ah yes, must have been racism."

Incorrect. It was the entitled elitism that partly sunk Hillary. Plus, even after all those years of getting "Bushed" there still was a Clinton Hangover.

"Hillary Clinton will never be President. Too many people dislike her. Add to that a grating voice and condescending attitude, well, not happening. Kinda like Newt."

+1

"How exactly did Obama change course in Iraq Q?"


I clearly stated that he brought them home on the "original" timetable. If he was so inept as you and others claim he would have phucked that up instead of taking out Osama, Somalia pirates and the majority of the leadership of AL-quada. On that note; he is Bush's wet dream.

IMHO, because he was able to complete the job that Bush started speaks volumes to Obama's ability to get the job done. Unlike Nixon, Obama took over a situation and didn't make it worse.”

“Myth has a case of this.

There lies the BIGGEST problem of religions:
They teach us to believe that the facts does not matter, it is the perception that counts in influence and power...”

“




LOLOLOL!!!!!”

“You suck at the internet

Eyeroll !”

“For some reason I'd thawt you were an adult FLAMO.”

“I'll say this - if there's any truth about the tax evasion thing, Romney doesn't stand a snowball's chance in this election...

but if there isn't any truth and he's just being swift-boated, then I'd say it's a pretty shameful move from the left”

“I'd say Romney should release them the day Barry releases all his College records form Columbia and Harvard. He's obviously hiding something.”

“The left, for the most part, (as well as many of their constituents) has a habit of turning a blind eye to lefty politicians who withold their own taxes. I doubt that they'll afford Romney the same courtesy. It would kinda ruin their whole class envy platform.”

“I'll sum up politics for you:

Pigs on the left call the pigs on the right swine. The pigs on the right deny this and, in retaliation, call the pigs on the left swine. Suddenly the left comes up with a picture of one of the pigs on the right rolling in mud, and it makes headlines for a couple days. Then the right comes up with a document proving that one of the pigs ont he left eats slop from a trough, which replaces the first headline for a couple days. Repeat this ad infinitum until election day when we all vote for the politician who we think is the least swinish.

really makes you proud of democracy in action, doesn't it?”

“Romney is a little more open about his plutocracy... Obama, like you said Non, likes to play the class envy card, but he's no better. Both are probably tax cheats. Both are owned by the big corporations who don't mind driving the "little people" into the ground to make a profit. Both are, at best, inept and, at worst, corrupt to the core. Neither will do this country any good unless it also furthers their own status in one way or another...

I really love this freedom of choice we have as proud Americans, don't you?”

“Love it.

My favorite part is when one rich guy tries to make it sound bad that the other rich guy is MORE rich. LMAO!”

“oh yeah... when I hear Obama talking about fat cats I want to barf on my shoes”

“But overall, Rmoney makes me puke MORE.”

“agreed”

“This whole tax evasion thing has highlighted a bigger problem with Mitt. He's a wuss.

Harry Reid makes a charge Mitt says is totally false and Mitt seems to have let him off the hook. He should be demanding everyday that he reveal his source or he should be pointing out all the ridiculous things Reid has said in the past. I'd expect more balls from the high school bully.”

“I can't argue with that. Call Reid a dirty liar like that RNC guy did this weekend”

“Good Lord, rosey and pepsi you guys are tards.

I coudln't agree with you more camp, Mitt is a total wuss. He needs to put together a small ball-busting unit to chew up every idiot remark from Pelosi and Reid. Those 2 are so full of screwball thangs they've said and done, it'd be easy to publicly slap'em around. Mitt needs to take them notes from his Team Naisty and directly attack and challenge'em.

Pepsi there's one little detail you're leaving out in your pigs and swine tale ....... 90% of all modern media are progressive whores. It HUGELY slants that pig and swine ebb and flow. What you have literally is the Reps showering in swine juice, then a few drops get on the Dems, then it showers again on the Reps, then a cupla drops mist the Dems, then ....................”

“Pepsi's a proggie posing as a moderate....not that there's anything wrong with that
~eyeroll~”

“aaaaaaahahahahahahahhaaha reckun y'all are prolly rite and fer da furst tyme evur duh mediur ain't tellin' da trut'”