Iraq Going Well (Bush Right Again!!!)

“Economics???
The world has plenty of economists.

Eat it EXlax, I'm an artist.

Here's a suggestion for you....
Get Psssssssycho-Help for your control freak busybody problem.
You've got all the advice for others.
Maybe someone could teach you to tend your own garden and you might not be such a fuss budget.”

“Experts Doubt Drop In Violence in Iraq: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/05/AR2007090502466.html?hpid=topnews”

“Yeah - that is a must read.

When you read it, notice the only 2 cited sources for this conclusion are the highly biasefd Iraq Study Group (U.S. Institute of Peace) from a study last year (which makes no sense in the context of this - and a Government agency (GAO), also an old report not accounting new information. The AP is one of the "expert sources" too I suppose. LOL!”

“Vile is trying to buy time for Chuckie Schumer to cover his ass after telling the troops in essence 'YOU SU@K!!!!'

But they still support the troops....(SARCASAM FONT)”

“I should have labled it a must read for thinking people.”

“Vile is this the same Washington Post that crowed about "Jimmy's World" (LOL)????”

“Vile is so pi$$ed the WAR is going better.
Typical Libbie.”

“Hearing that from Tenet is like Adm Kimmel and Gen Short demeaning Nimitz and McArthur.





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“the highly biasefd (sic) Iraq Study Group

meaning the results of their study didnt agree with your preconceived notions, eh?”

“you forgot to add 'comprehend'.”

““I should have labled it a must read for thinking people.” - VioLiN

Or Washington Post Sheeple.”

“".....meaning the results of their study didn't agree with your preconceived notions, eh?"

That pretty well says it.

The Iraq Study Group is a bi-partisan group.

Where's the bias?”

“The Iraq Study Group is a bi-partisan group.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, ... they were referenced for a study from last year. How the heck and a study from last year comment on how the war is doing this year over last year???? Only with a Washington Post spin can that happen.”

“That study group don't never got no stripes of lead paint.”

“I suppose if the Iraq Study Group panel were stacked with war-mongering fascists you might be happy, Corporal.
(I just busted you down)”

“For the libbies Bipartisan means "they BUY OUR PARTISAN STUFF"...LOL”

“I might be happy, but it still wouldn't be bi-partisan. Half Dems and half Repubs does not make something bi-partisan. Where are the anti-2 party crowd when you need them on here?”

“See ya later, Private....”

“Dismissed, recruit.”

“Here I am, Leftrightleftrightleftright.....”

“so they stack the Iraq Study Group with alllll the famed greens, libertarians and independents? you'd buy the results of that study, right?”

“Don't forget the Know Nothing Party, HiBo.”

“More respectable commentary from Marko.”

“
This morning there was a knock at my door. When I answered the door I found a well groomed, nicely dressed couple. The man spoke first:

John: "Hi! I'm John, and this is Mary."

Mary: "Hi! We're here to invite you to come kiss George Bush's ass with us."

Me: "Pardon me?! What are you talking about? Who the #&%!$ is George Bush, and why would I want to kiss his ass?"

John: "If you kiss George Bush's ass, He'll give you a bazillion dollars; and if you don't, His thug wannabes will try to kick the #&%!$ out of you."

Me: "What? Is this some sort of cult?"

John: "George Bush is a billionaire philanthropist. George Bush built this town. George Bush owns this town. He can do whatever He wants, and what He wants is to give you a million dollars, but He can't until you kiss His ass."

Me: "That doesn't make any sense. Why..."

Mary: "Who are you to question George's Gift? Don't you want a bazillion dollars? Isn't it worth a little kiss on the ass?"

Me: "Well maybe if I'd had a lobotomy, sure..."

John: "Then come kiss George Bush's ass with us."

Me: "Do you kiss George's ass often?"

Mary: "Oh yes, all the time..."

Me: "And has He given you a bazillion dollars?"

John: "Well no. You don't actually get the money until you leave town."

Me: "So why don't you just leave town now?"

Mary: "You can't leave until George Bush tells you to, or you don't get the money, and people like us will want to kick the #&%!$ out of you."

Me: "Do you know anyone who kissed George Bush's ass, left town, and got the bazillion dollars?"

John: "My mother kissed George Bush 's ass for years. She left town last year, and I'm sure she got the money."

Me: "Haven't you talked to her since then?"

John: "Of course not, George doesn't allow it."

Me: "So what makes you think he'll actually give you the money if you've never talked to anyone who got the money?"

Mary: "Well, He gives you a little bit before you leave. Maybe you'll get a raise, maybe you'll win a small lotto, maybe you'll just find a twenty-dollar bill on the street."

Me: "What's that got to do with Bush?"

John: "George Bush has certain 'connections.'"

Me: "I'm sorry, but this is some sort of bizarre con game."

John: "But it's a bazillion dollars! Can you really take the chance? And remember, if you don't kiss George Bush's ass we'll try to ruin your reputation.”

Me: "Maybe if I could see George Bush, talk to him, get the details straight from him..."

Mary: "No one sees The Bush, no one talks to The Bush."

Me: "Then how do you kiss his ass?"

John: "Sometimes we just blow Him a kiss, and think of His ass. Other times we kiss Karl's ass, and he passes it on."

Me: "Who the #&%!$ is Karl?"

Mary: "A friend of ours. He's the one who taught us all about kissing George Bush's ass. All we had to do was take him out to dinner a few times."

Me: "And you just took his word for it when he said there was a George Bush, that George Bush wanted you to kiss His ass, and that George Bush would reward you?"

John: "Oh no! Karl has a letter he got from George Bush years ago explaining the whole thing. Here's a copy; see for yourself."



From the Desk of Karl

1. Kiss George W. Bush's ass and He'll give you a bazillion dollars when you leave town.
2. Use alcohol in moderation.
3. Whine, bltch and complain about of people who aren't like you.
4. Eat right.
5. George W. Bush dictated this list Hisself.
6. The moon is made of green cheese.
7. Everything George W. Bush says is right.
8. Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.
9. Don't use alcohol.
10. Eat your wieners on buns, no condiments.
11. Kiss George W. Bush's ass or His creatures will try to destroy your reputation.



Me: "This appears to be written on Karl's letterhead."

Mary: "George doesn’t know how to use a word processor.”

Me: "I have a hunch that if we checked we'd find this is Karl's handwriting."

John: "Of course! George Bush dictated it."

Me: "I thought you said no one gets to see George Bush?"

Mary: "Not now, but years ago He would talk to some people."

Me: "I thought you said he was a philanthropist. What sort of philanthropist has his little friends try to destroy people just because they're different?"

Mary: "It's what George Bush wants, and George Bush's always right."

Me: "How do you figure that?"

Mary: "Item 7 says 'Everything George Bush says is right.' That's good enough for me!"

Me: "Maybe your friend Psycho Karl hallucinated the whole thing."

John: "No way! Item 5 says 'George Bush dictated this list himself.' Besides, item 2 says 'Use alcohol in moderation,' Item 4 says 'Eat right,' and item 8 says 'Wash your hands after going to the bathroom.' Everyone knows those things are right, so the rest must be true, too."

Me: "But 9 says 'Don't use alcohol.' which doesn't quite go with item 2, and 6 says 'The moon is made of green cheese,' which is just plain wrong."

John: "There's no contradiction between 9 and 2, 9 just clarifies 2. As far as 6 goes, you've never been to the moon, so you can't say for sure."

Me: "Scientists have pretty firmly established that the moon is made of rock..."

Mary: "But they don't know if the rock came from the Earth, or from out of space, so it could just as easily be green cheese."

Me: "I'm not really an expert, but I think the theory that the Moon was somehow 'captured' by the Earth has been discounted*. Besides, not knowing where the rock came from doesn't make it cheese."

John: "Ha! You just admitted that scientists make mistakes, but we know George Bush is always right!"

Me: "We do?"

Mary: "Of course we do, Item 7 says so."

Me: "You're saying George Bush is always right because the list says so, the list is right because George Bush dictated it, and we know that George Bush dictated it because the list says so. That's circular logic, no different than saying ' George Bush is right because he says he's right.'"

John: "Now you're getting it! It's sooooooo rewarding to see someone come around to George Bush 's way of... “thinking” ."

Me: "But... oh, never mind. What's the deal with wieners?"

Mary blushes.

John: "Wieners, in buns, no condiments. It's George Bush's way. Anything else is wrong."

Me: "What if I don't have a bun?"

John: "No bun, no wiener. A wiener without a bun is wrong."

Me: "No relish? No Mustard?"

Mary looks positively stricken.

John: He's shouting. "There's no need for such language! Condiments of any kind are wrong!"

Me: "So a big pile of sauerkraut with some wieners chopped up in it would be out of the question?"

Mary, sticking her fingers in her ears: "I am not listening to this. La la la, la la, la la."

John: "That's disgusting. Only some sort of evil deviant would eat that..."

Me: "It's good! I eat it all the time."

Mary faints.

John, catching Mary: "Well, if I'd known you were one of those I wouldn't have wasted my time. When more little pricks like us come around throwing rocks at your house I'll be there, counting my money and laughing. I'll kiss George Bush's ass for you, you bunless cut-wienered kraut-eater."

With this, John dragged Mary to their waiting car, and sped off.

”

“Wow, how are real eastate prices in Georgia I've been thinking of possible moving even further from that place.”

“Unfortunately, if you don't think that way, you're thought of as being "sadly out of touch," shall we say.

It's an alternate reality sort of thing.”

“It'll be okay in 2016, when third terms are legal and you'll have the Billocratic and Hillocratic Parties in a close race over whom gets which crown.”

“Please God No ---      LOL”

“Georgia??

Too stinkin' hot.”

“Sure as hell was, about three weeks ago.   Much better now, though.
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“Last weekend was 90's and humido.......went to a hot rod show...........fuzzy dice, everythang.
Them rods were really hot and so was the live retro music..............surf, rockabilly, etc.

Much cooler now!”

“Really ----

The Friday before the Perseids (Aug 10) was forecast for 105°.......... but it hit One Hundred Freakin' Eight.

That's One Whole Degree Hotter (F) than it was at Phantom Ranch back in late August 1991.

FTS!”

“Poor tiltypoo. SO confused.”

“I told you a few weeks ago that Iraq will be turning around. Now it's made the Washington Post of all places!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/14/AR2007101401245_pf.html

Of course, the naysayers are saying it won't last ... but we all know they're always wrong.

And no, I wasn't guessing this would happen, I just get my information from sources OTHER than Katie "look at my legs" Couric.”

“$90.00 oil?”

“It's an interesting article. It starts off saying "The U.S. military believes it has dealt devastating and perhaps irreversible blows to al-Qaeda in Iraq in recent months" and goes on to detail what sounds like good news.

The analysis speculates that some people in the administration are thinking of downplaying this, because it would suggest that the US mission is now about civil war, not AQI. I wonder if there are some who have something very different in mind - giving the US the chance to declare victory in Iraq and leave while the civil war rages. Yeah, reading between the lines is a perilous task - but I wonder.

I think we still have a chance to work our way out without leaving a worst case scenario behind. I've been interested to see the amount of consensus in the Senate behind Biden's plan and the collaboration he is engaged in with Brownback in promoting a different strategy for Iraq.”

“His assumption that a different strategy is needed is incorrect.”

“Keep in mind that "al Qaeda in Iraq" became "al Qaeda in Iraq" simply by choosing to call themselves "al Qaeda in Iraq".

Any of the guerillas can wake up one morning and call themselves al Qaeda.

There always seem to be more Mafiosi to take the place of any who are caught or killed.... and that club is lots harder to get into.”

“Thirdterm actually has a point there.”

“It's an interesting article. It starts off saying "The U.S. military believes it has dealt devastating and perhaps irreversible blows to al-Qaeda in Iraq in recent months" and goes on to detail what sounds like good news.
UndeadXing
11:03:50 AM
10/15/07



But isn't that what it's always been about here? Whose belief to believe and whether their belief of good news is really good or their belief of bad news is really bad? It always falls along party lines and/or corroboration of ones previously held views.

People will always believe what they want no matter what the facts. They'll just keep pounding the square peg into their round hole to make it fit.”

“Actually what was interesting in the word "believes" was the newspaper's choice to use the word. There are other words, like "reports" and other ways of saying things that create less distance between the journalist and the message being reported. I'm not really sure what's going on here.

Everything I've read tells me that AQI has taken some big hits in Iraq and is much weaker than the same time last year.”

“The word "believes" is a CYA. Speaking in general terms gives one cover when/if the crap blows up in thy face.

Besides, isn't Trollarge one of the pundits that constantly claims that you can't believe everything you read in the supposed MSM?

I guess that's only the case when "they" agree with ya.

The facts have changed my mind on this action a while ago. It is possible for a person to realize that the company line is leading them into a pit of BS; history plays a role with this countries action globally as well.

If America never did this kind of crap historically, I would give more of the benefit of a doubt. However, this country's policy of Manifest Destiny does not afford that kind of courtesy.

We've phucked up enough, now those who we have screwed in the past are looking for payback. The wise ones are those how see that fact, the moronics are those who still think everything the US has done is perfect.

Admitting past wrongs would go a long way to rehab our global status in the world. It's too bad that it's seen as "failure" to do so.”

“Again, if there is no hurdle to being classified as such, the term "al Qaeda" is meaningless and so are all such 'predictions'.

It's like the previous discussion we had about the word 'jihad'.  When people don't really know the meaning of a word, misuse is bound to occur and any discussion of the concept of 'jihad' in that circumstance is meaningless.”

“well said laqtis”

“Besides, isn't Trollarge one of the pundits that constantly claims that you can't believe everything you read in the supposed MSM? - laqtose

I think you missed the entire point. Like I said, I had predicted this many weeks ago based on MY sources. Now, I'm just presenting sources that you libs typicall ACCEPT. That's the whole point.

So "b.s." can be said "well", but that doesn't mean it's right.
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“"So "b.s." can be said "well", but that doesn't mean it's right."

That's why very few agree with your persona. It's your SOP.

One persons al Qaeda, is another's freedom fighter. The Brits were calling us all sorts of names when white Anglos were being "treated unfairly" back in the day.

It's called de-humanization, a term that Trollarge, et. al. gets confused. Perhaps if people like that would take the time to unwrap the American Flag from their eyes, they would be part of the solution and not part of the problem.


ps - thanks, Lumber.”

“What is your solution?

The reason your "solution" (??) doesn't work is because you don't recognize the problem.
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“It's a "new" sort of colonial war.

Success is very difficult in this kind of adventure because Iraq will likely never stay "fixed" the way our government wants it to.”

“"What is your solution?

The reason your "solution" (??) doesn't work is because you don't recognize the problem."

If you don't know what my solution is, how can you say it is not, or would not, be effective.

A little assumptive on your part.

You claim you're well-read on this board. Go find my solution to this issue, then get back to us.

I'm not paid to offer an online course.”

“Again, my point (emphasized by the ??) is that you offer no solution to the real problems.”