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“Just don't fall asleep. I read Eberts review and he complained of things like, at the very beginning of the story, when Obi Wan and Anakin are able to board The Invisble Hand and make their way through the ship relatively unscathed. The dialogue between Palpatine, Grievous, and Dooku clearly indicates that it is a trap. I guess he was still at the popcorn stand during that part.”
“Politics creates a disturbance in the Force
By César G. Soriano, USA TODAY
Since early screenings of Episode III: Revenge of the Sith began last month, film critics, commentators and Internet bloggers have been debating whether filmmaker George Lucas is comparing President Bush and the Iraq war to the Dark Side of the Force. The conservative film site Pabaah.com has called for a boycott. The topic even made NBC's Today show.
Bush beneath the mask? To many, Revenge of theSith seems to be touching on current events.
Lucas said Sunday at the Cannes Film Festival that the movie was written before the Iraq war. "We were just funding Saddam Hussein and giving him weapons of mass destruction," he said, adding, "The parallels between Vietnam and what we're doing in Iraq now are unbelievable."
Still, some see echoes of Bush in the film.
In one scene, Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader tells his onetime mentor, Obi-Wan Kenobi, "If you're not with me, you're my enemy." The line is seen as a reference to Bush's post-Sept. 11 threat "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
The White House declined to comment on the controversy.
Josh Griffin, a self-described "conservative Star Wars fan," says he cringed when he heard the dialogue at a recent advance screening of Sith. "Star Wars is meant to be a children's movie ... not to be a political statement about someone's liberal ideology."
Even a perception of bias could hurt a film's bottom line, some say. The crucial summer moviegoing season usually makes up 40% of a year's box office revenue; this year, ticket sales are down 7% from 2004.
"If people feel Lucas is pushing a parallel between the Galactic Empire and present-day America, I think people will be turned off," says filmmaker Jason Apuzzo, co-editor of the conservative film blog Libertas (libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas).
But others applaud Lucas for taking a stand.
"As a liberal and a Democrat, it was comforting," says Slant magazine film critic Ed Gonzalez. "Star Wars is created by real people, starring real people, so it's inevitable it will reflect real-life issues," even if it is sci-fi fantasy.
Freelance writer Craig Winneker, who accused Sith of bias on the webzine Tech Central Station, says he nonetheless loved the film. "I'm not going to hold a grudge against the movie or base my opinion on world events because of something Yoda says."
People who have seen early screenings of Star Wars, Episode III: Revenge of the Sith are noting parallels to the Bush administration:
• Sith plot: Seeking to strengthen security during wartime, Chancellor Palpatine persuades the Senate to give up civil liberties and elect him emperor for life. "So this is how liberty dies — to thunderous applause," Senator Amidala laments.
• Bush plot: Seeking to strengthen security after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, President Bush urged legislators to pass the Patriot Act, which opponents say infringes on civil liberties.
• Sith's war: Palpatine starts a war to divert attention from his true political motives.
• Bush's war: Bush persuades Congress to go to war with Iraq based on evidence that has now been largely dismissed.”
“I'm with treebeard here. The damn thing hasn't even opened yet and already I'm sick of it.”
“I havent seen one add for it....
:)I guess having no tv is really paying off :D”
“Can't wait to see it. My brother and dad are going at midnight.”
“STAR WARS SUCKS”
“LESS JEDI MORE HIKING!
“As much as I don't want to see this movie, it's going to happen. Closure is needed here. Gem is right. Star Wars has truly sucked at least since EP 1, although I'd say 6 sucked too.
Frankly, except for 1138 and graffiti, he pretty much should stay out of film after this. (unless he wants to produce another Howard the Duck, which would be pretty cool)”
“MORE JEDI MORE HIKING. I WANT TO HIKE IN AN OBIWAN KENOBI OUTFIT AND USE LIGHTSABERS AS TREKKING POLES!”
“I can't take movie advice from somebody who gives props to Howard the Duck.”
“wouldn't your pole tips sink into the molten rock?”
“hyway...you have to use the force...DUH!”
“hiking poles aren't for pushing off the ground with!
They have many uses that light sabres would be perfect for ...”
“i heard howard the duck really sucked. 1138 is out on dvd right now. need to check it out”
“I didn't see Howard. It was a joke. 1138 is great. So is the original (labyrinth). might be too artsy for some.”
“1138 is great. So is the original (labyrinth).
im cornfused. what do 1138 and labyrinth have to do with each other? do you mean the one with david bowie?”
“I was at a conference in the Loop today. There was a break before dinner, so I headed out for a walk, and inadvertantly walked by a theatre where Star Wars was being released. There were all these people in Star Wars costumes waiting outside the theatre on the side walk. There were a guy ahead of me and suddenly one character jumped in front of him and pointed a plastic gun at him, the guy ahead of me nearly freaked and yelled, "Point that some place else!" S/he withdrew and then some one in a home made costume jumped out, and the same guy yelled, "And you too!" It was strange.
I got home in time to watch the 10pm local news and some of these people were camped out since Friday.
Sorry, as a sociologist, I just don't understand. I'll leave this to the psycholgists to explain. :-)”
“Those freaky costume wearing Star Wars geeks! I hate em. Er I mean, um, my brother, I love em. Yeah yeah, that's the ticket. : P
Hey, I love the commercialism. If it means dark chocolate M&M's then. Yeah baby! LOL!”
Um... Dug (Pixie's brother) is reading over my shoulder...”
“cb - Electronic Labyrinth:THX 1138 4EB was the original (student) film that Lucas made. It was so good that Coppola decided to fund his making of a full featured movie, THX 1138 with Robert Duvall.”
“is that something easy to get a hold of? i think id really dig seeing that”
“It's on the director's cut DVD of 1138.”
“By the way, 1138 is where the name "wookie" came from.
Listen for it in the movie.”
“Is anyone else terrified by this conversation between sarge and crash bang?”
“its the seventh sign of the apocalypse”
“whats the difference between people dressing the part for this movie than dressing the part for Rocky Horror. At least with Star Wars they don't act out the movie like they do RH.”
““whats the difference between people dressing the part for this movie than dressing the part for Rocky Horror. At least with Star Wars they don't act out the movie like they do RH.”
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True, very true.”
“They're both geeky.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.”
“I saw the first 3 Star Wars when they came out. I have seen the last 2 and they don't even compare to the first ones.
I wonder if these newer ones had come first if they would have been as successful”
“They definitely would have not gotten the older crowd to watch them as much. I think older crowds did see them b/c they were attached to the others and that was the natural conclusion.
To me, the good thing about 4 and 5 was that they made a 20 something feel like a kid again. 6,1 and 2 was made for kids. Big difference, and I think Lucas missed that point.”
“personnally, I think the difference between 4 and 5 and the rest of them is that in 4 & 5 the action was more character driven while the rest seem to be there just to create cool special effect.”
“so where are the first TTer reviews?
they should be coming in by now
last edited: 5/19/05 12:41:01 PM”
“sacco, I don't think anyone will admit to being that much of a nerd. ;-)”
“So my bf went to a 12:30am showing and the movie BROKE!!! They didn't get to see the movie.
Imagine 5 theaters of pissed of Star Wars geeks that have been waiting for this thing for months... (I can't help but laugh at the thought)
last edited: 5/19/05 12:47:29 PM”
“SS, i think you're underestimating TTville - err overestimating(?)”
“Made for kids? I love that Ewok song at the end of #6. It rocks!”
“LOL at DD
now it's in my head you bassturd”
“I know... now it' stuck in my head too :D”
“was there a riot?”
“I wasn't there... Dug left "before things got ugly" lol.
I can just imagine 5 theaters of pissed off geeky white men. LOL. They all got free movie tix, but still...”
“I just got back from seeing it. It was pretty awesome. It was definitely the best of the prequels and I was very satisfied with it. I felt it tied the knot well. Some of the dialogue was lame, but I think that is the case in all the star wars movies, including the originals. A New Hope and Empire are still the cream of the crop, but I think this one outshines Jedi.”
“so am I the only one that has seen the new Star Wars (Sith) on this board? Fess up people. I know I am not the only nerd on trailtalk.”
“I'm waiting til Monday after work, hate crowds at the theater. I may watch the originals today if I get all my cleaning done.”
“I rented all of the Star Wars and have been watching them since I saw it. When I saw it on Thursday, I got into the theater no problem, didn't have to wait in line or anything. The theater was full though, but I had a good seat. Yoda is awesome.”
“going to be seeing it in about 2 and a half hours
“be open minded CB. Forget about the last two. Clear your head and think about the here and now. Judging movies is the path to the dark side of the force.”
“i said "woohoo!"”
“lol I have been watching way too much Star Wars lately. I rented the whole series and have been watching them since. I've been talking like Yoda. I think I need help ...”
“help you need think i”
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