Another assault on the environment?

“From MSNBC...
"SEATTLE, April 28 - The Bush administration has decided to count hatchery-bred fish, which are pumped into West Coast rivers by the hundreds of millions yearly, when it decides whether stream-bred wild salmon are entitled to protection under the Endangered Species Act."
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Isn't this like counting sperm in as part of the population?????”

“Whatever the other political issues, it frightens me to think how many more sell-outs will be made to business interests if this administration gets another four years.”

“I thought he greased all the palms already!”

“Not all, BB. This guy has a few aces up his sleeve...”

“....and an extremely poor record.”

“Buddha Bear, they've been greased but they want more.

The more ya give 'em, the more they want.”

“Well as long as dick has something to shoot when he's out with supreme court justices then everything's ok.”

“the state of California is leading the way, having recently passed a landmark law to reduce heat-trapping emissions from cars, trucks, and SUVs.

But instead of doing their fair share to curb these harmful gases, the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers, including self-described environmental leaders such as Ford and Toyota, recently sued the people of California to block this law! Only Honda and Nissan out of the major automakers have yet to join the lawsuit.

The federal Clean Air Act gives other states the opportunity to adopt California's clean air standards. Eight states and Canada are already poised to join California, which together represent more than a quarter of the North American auto market. But automakers appear intent on thwarting this critical clean air initiative by spending huge sums with their lawyers rather implementing existing technology with their engineers


sign the petition:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/812307688”

“It can’t get any clearer. The changes that must be made are not going to be made voluntarily.”

“I wanted to buy a hybrid last year. Toyota was supposed to release their hybrid version, but alas it was not released and I was forced to buy a gasoline car. The waiting lists are so long I don't know why the car makers don't get on board with the public. The short supply indicates to me that the car makers are being mismanaged, the high demand for the limited number available is not good business, why not accept the American public wants to be responsible and the car makers are fighting tooth and nail. Why?

signer 14,150”

“That’s what I don’t get. The demand is there. The technology is there. They aren’t losing out on selling cars by going hybrid. Ford has shown that hybrids do not have to be tiny ugly cars like the Honda was because they are bring out a SUV hybrid. Chevy is bring out a big work truck compete with 120v outlets. So what gives? If I’m not mistaken the tax break you get almost covers the extra cost of the hybrid.”

“Popular Mechanics (Feb 2005) has a very interesting article comparing Hybrids to Deisels. They found Deisels to be very competitive with Hybrids for fuel economy - with the Deisels usually significantly cheaper and somewhat better performing. Their fuel ratings for the Deisels were much closer to the ratings for hybrids than the EPA ratings.”

“The tax break is $2,000.00 till the end of THIS year, then it drops down to $500.00

Very interesting Pedxing. Even with the high price of diesel?”

“I'm no expert but from the little I've seen the diesels are just as much as the hybrids. And aren't the diesels even worse than gas as far as emissions?”

“Stadium Site Soil Contains Arsenic
Oct 6, 2005, 12:17 AM EST

There are accusations of what some say is illegal dumping of contaminated soil from the site of the new colts stadium. I-team 8 uncovers arsenic, high levels, in the dirt. Environmentalists are calling it fraudulent and neighbors are calling it a major health concern.

Twelve acres of dirt being dug out to make way for the new stadium. The 350,000 tons of waste will contain more than six thousand pounds of arsenic, to be dumped less than a quarter mile from the White River.

"The place they want to put it is not suitable for that kind of dirt," environmental expert Dick Van Frank told News 8.

The arsenic laden dirt will be dumped in a gravel pit, unlined and not capped, instead of the more expensive route of dumping it into a contained landfill.

In a 24 Hour News 8 exclusive, Dick Van Frank, an environmental expert told I-team 8 the Indiana Department of Environmental Management is looking the other way.

"If the public can't trust them to do their jobs unbiased, thats a big problem," Van Frank said. "It is unethical and may be illegal."

IDEM wants to dump the dirt in a gravel pit on old State Road 37 north along the Johnson/Morgan county line.

The pit sits on a bluff, waste runs downhill into the river and groundwater.

Janet Colborn and her 1 year old grandson live nearby.

"What could it do to the land around it, the water because of the white river and all the extra traffic," Colborn said.

Some say 500 daily truckloads of waste will be dumped at the site day and night.

For the first time, IDEM is allowing a solid waste, arsenic contaminated soil to be deposited in an unpermitted and unregulated dumpsite.

"This is a case where they can get rid of it on the cheap. We'll dump it down there and no one will know about it," Van Frank told News 8.

Documents obtained by I-team 8 show the state's own testing found high levels of arsenic but then the high numbers are removed. Removing the higher numbers lowers the arsenic level on paper.

"There's always a price to progess but it shouldn't be done on the backs of those who can least afford it," Van Frank explained.

Calls to the Indiana Department of Environmental Management were not returned.

This is a developing story and News 8 continue to bring you the latest information.”

“i usually do not like to talk about presidents because it sometimes starts a fight, but i am really concerned about this administrations lack of concern for other forms of life in this incredible universe in which we live

there are over 2,000 dead satellites floating in mother earth's outer skin, not to mention tons of garbage, almost none of which is biodegradable

what is this administration going to do to clean up our outer atmosphere? maybe before we try to go to mars and pollute that world, we should clean up our own

the universe is a small world of which many many forms of life, most of which we have yet to meet, try to enjoy
if they can not clean it up for reasons unknown to us laymen, maybe they should at least make a law that anything we put into space is biodegradable

has anybody on here looked into this? thanks for letting me vent

The frog does not drink up the pond in which he lives. ~Sioux”

“I was under the impression that most of the space junk eventually falls back to the Earth and most of it burns up on reentry. I could be wrong on this though.”

“I am not a big fan of this administration either but in all fairness what has any other administration before him done...nothing.

I agree with ax it eventually falls back into the atmosphere and burns up on reentry”

“moonglo = bizarro world "sarge"”

“i agree with moonglo.

even if this stuff does burn up in the atmosphere, aren't these fumes toxic?

there should be a study done on the toxicity of this burning trash.

mother earth's outer skin should be kept clean.

someday, thanks to eathkilling presidents like bush, we'll need to relocate up there.

how can we move into space if we're already polluting it too?”

“sometimes i scare myself LOL”