Bon Saturnalia

“Many rednecks prefer Bachanalia to Saturnalia. Bacchus is God of beer (the Yankee controlled liberal media wants you to think of him only as God of wine, but he will be pleased if you drink a six pack - or two, or three or four or five) in his honor.”

“oh joyful Bachmilwalkesbeastlia!

now that they may comprehendo”

“Questian: Did not Saturnalia start on Dec 17th of the Old Roman Calendar? Not on the 17th of the Modern Calendar?”

“LOL. Cultic fighting. Hmmm, is this inter- or intra-?”

“IO Pan! Bon Saturnalia Y'all.

It is now the month of December, when the greatest part of the city is in a bustle. Loose reins are given to public dissipation; everywhere you may hear the sound of great preparations, as if there were some real difference between the days devoted to Saturn and those for transacting business....Were you here, I would willingly confer with you as to the plan of our conduct; whether we should eve in our usual way, or, to avoid singularity, both take a better supper and throw off the toga.

Seneca the Younger, AD 50”

““Saturn is said to have been so just that no one under him was a servant, nor did anyone have any private possessions, but all things were held in common and undivided, as if the inheritance of one belonged to all.”

Marcus Junianus Justinus, Epitome of The Philippic History of Pompeius Trogus; Justin: Liber XLIII. circa CCC BCE


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“IO Saturnalia!

Let the drunkeness begin. Let the poor man be the king. Let the outlaw give the most sacred law. Rejoice in the season of benign misrule begin!”

“We circle round creating sacred space,
invoking the Heavens' holy grace.
We call the Gods to guard our solemn rite,
and ward this hallowed ground with walls of light.
Let sky above and earth below unite,
a bond established by Olympic might.
Let fear and discord leave without a trace,
and peace prevail within this holy place.

Let word be deed by this decree.
As it is said, so must it be!
(Sit verbum factum hoc decreto.
Ut dictum est, sic statim fiat!)
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“some of this stuff I just dont get.”

“Here is a bit of history:

In Rome, where winters were not as harsh as those in the far north, Saturnalia—a holiday in honor of Saturn, the god of agriculture—was celebrated. Beginning in the week leading up to the winter solstice and continuing for a full month, Saturnalia was a hedonistic time, when food and drink were plentiful and the normal Roman social order was turned upside down. For a month, slaves would become masters. Peasants were in command of the city. Business and schools were closed so that everyone could join in the fun.

Also around the time of the winter solstice, Romans observed Juvenalia, a feast honoring the children of Rome. In addition, members of the upper classes often celebrated the birthday of Mithra, the god of the unconquerable sun, on December 25. It was believed that Mithra, an infant god, was born of a rock. For some Romans, Mithra's birthday was the most sacred day of the year.



Sadly others have taken over and co-opted our great holiday and turned their hearts from the delights of the Saturnalia.”

“still kinda out there for me. call me a bumpkin.”

“Nah... call me drunk and a fool who is "out there", one who has celebrated the Saturnalia by drinking the fermented fruit of the vine - holy to Lord Bacchus.”

“yep I get that part. holy Jose Quervo does the same thing to me.”

“yep I get that part. holy Jose Quervo does the same thing to me.”

“Ban Saturnalia?

Did he start a thread to ban himself?

I think Carlette hiccup'ed”

“it's a silly "it"”

“OH miss Pammy....me and the rest of the Knights who until recently said NI would appreciate you avoiding that CERTAIN WORD!

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“December 17th is the holiest of days, the beginning of the feasts and festivals of Saturn father of the great gods. It is time for drunkeness and chaos, for dancing and nakedness for great joy and pleasure, for festive excess in all things pleasurable. And on this day each household shall proclaim a king of folly, a lord of misrule - a Saturnalicus Princeps.”

“Saturnus was a God king of Italy, whom the Romans identified with the Greek god Cronus. He was the father of Jupiter, Neptune, Pluto, Juno, and so others of the gods. Saturnus, whose name refers to the sowing of seed, introduced agriculture to the people, along with morality and civilization, and his reign was considered to be the "Golden Age" of Italy. As agriculture was the source of wealth, his wife Ops was the heavenly representative of plenty.

Saturn came to Italy during the reign of Janus, by whom he was well received. He founded a settlement on the Capitoline hill, taught the people agriculture, and changed their savage way of life. The resulting land was called "Saturia", or the land of plenty. The area later became known as "Latium" (Latin lateo = "to be concealed") from the sudden disappearance of Saturnus from earth.

The temple of Saturn was dedicated on December 17, in one of the early years of the Republic. It contained a hollow statue of Saturnus that was filled with oil, to denote the fertility of Latium in olives. In his hand was a crooked pruning knife, and his feet were surrounded with woollen bonds. The temple was also the state treasury and the depository of many of its laws. The Saturnalia honors Saturnus.”

“that's kinda creepy it's my moms birthday today”

“Well I hope she is having a splendidly happy birthday.

Raise a glass in her honor, drain it and pour another drink (repeat until any shadow of sobriety has vanished in the warm glow of drunkeness).”

“we don't drink here in this household”

“It has to be a holiday to do all that?”

“Hey Bon Saturnalia! Tonight I'll drink to that!
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“Also my sons 33rd birthday, we'll have at least one beer to that:)”

“Chili. It need not be a holy day to do any of this, but is it not a great blessing to be to be faithful to ones Gods while joining in joyous revelry.

Rocky. I will not begrudge you your barren lifestyle of abstinence. It seems much un-natural and against Gods plan, but if it brings you joy I will take no offence at your publicly displaying a sober lifestyle. As the man on the 100 dollar bill said "Beer is proof that God loves us and want us to be happy."”

“Equinoxes & Solstices

Winter Solstice 2008: Sunday Dec 21 @ 7:04 AM EST”

“Happy Festivus.”

“See moderation thread for Airing of Grievances, � LOL”

“Saturnalia, Chronia (Ancient Greek, Roman Republic)

Originally celebrated by the ancient Greeks as Kronia, the festival of Chronos, Saturnalia was the feast at which the Romans commemorated the dedication of the temple of Saturn, which originally took place on 17 December, but expanded to a whole week, up to 23 December. A large and important public festival in Rome, it involved the conventional sacrifices, a couch set in front of the temple of Saturn and the untying of the ropes that bound the statue of Saturn during the rest of the year. Besides the public rites there were a series of holidays and customs celebrated privately. The celebrations included a school holiday, the making and giving of small presents (saturnalia et sigillaricia) and a special market (sigillaria). Gambling was allowed for all, even slaves during this period. The toga was not worn, but rather the synthesis, i.e., colorful, informal "dinner clothes" and the pileus (freedman's hat) was worn by everyone. Slaves were exempt from punishment, and treated their masters with disrespect. The slaves celebrated a banquet before, with, or served by the masters. Saturnalia became one of the most popular Roman festivals which led to more tomfoolery, marked chiefly by having masters and slaves ostensibly switch places, temporarily reversing the social order. In Greek and Cypriot folklore it was believed that children born during the festival were in danger of turning into Kallikantzaroi which come out of the earth after the solstice to cause trouble for mortals. Some would leave colanders on their doorsteps to distract them until the sun returned.”

“source: wikipedia

Personally, I am celebrating Soyal this year.”

“I haven't seen many colanders on doorsteps this week, � LOL -----



I always did like the Greek nomenclature

Sol ....................... Helios
Mercury ............... Hermes
Venus ................. Aphrodite
Terra ................... Gaea
Luna .................... Selene
Mars .................... Ares
Jupiter ................. Zeus
Saturn ................. Kronos
Uranus ................ Uranos
Neptune .............. Poseidon
Pluto .................... Pluton (or Hades)

(though the Greeks had no knowledge of the last three as planets)


Kronos.... � Wasn't that the Klingon homeworld? � ("Queen to queen�s level three," donchaknow)



And there are those incredible views of Saturn with the Sun behind it from Cassini:





(there's a LARGE version of the first image on Wiki that'll knock yer socks off)



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“I'm worried. It will be miserable for me here when people find out that I'm Sarge.

At least I was the one who obtained the trail name for the one poster/user whose identity I promised to protect.”

“crud - didn't mean to put that here and nothing to say to replace it. That's what happens when I am multi-tasking and have several threads open at once. (Maybe I should go back to bed - I had a late night at the ER).”

“Maybe no one will see it.”

“I see no evil, hear no evil....”

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NASA Science News for December 22, 2008
Saturn's Crazy Christmas Tilt

The planet Saturn is doing something rare and beautiful this holiday season. Find out what in today's story from Science@NASA.

FULL STORY at

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/22dec_crazytilt.htm?list100250

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“IO Saturnalia! Six more days until the wild rumpus begins!”

“It is the first day of Saturnalia.

What better place to mark the first day than here on this board, where misule, follishness and drunkeness prevail year 'round and which is known by the sign of the double dangling phalluses (TT).”

“Saturnalia begins today! Time to drink, and be merry! Time to take a better supper and throw off the toga!

As Seneca wrote 2,000 years ago:

"It is now the month of December, when the greatest part of the city is in a bustle. Loose reins are given to public dissipation; everywhere you may hear the sound of great preparations, as if there were some real difference between the days devoted to Saturn and those for transacting business... Were you here, I would willingly confer with you as to the plan of our conduct; whether we should eve in our usual way, or, to avoid singularity, both take a better supper and throw off the toga."”

“I LOVE SQUASH!”

“Thanks you, Satvrnalici, and the same to you.”

“I posted a thread comment (skin farming) just for you, Lyra. ;-)”