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“If this proves true then those perpetrators are a disgrace to the uniform.Ē
Agreed Marko. I am extremely skeptical at this point. I will wait to cast judegment when the CID is done. I dont beleive much I see reported.
Case in point.
Sept 2003, Fallujah. Allegations of soldiers from the 82nd abn div killing "Iraqi policeman". My best friend was at the road block that was charged by a white toyota pickup with 5 Iraqis on board. The iraqis open fired killing the NCO next to PJ. His troops returned fire killing all of em. They werent cops they were bad guys pure and simple. I think that in many cases reporters are hungry for a story.
As I said I am skeptical.
last edited: 6/01/06 7:55:26 PM”
“Skeptical is always prudent. I expect the worse from humans, as a whole. But I also believe in the opposite.”
“I expect the worts from humans too, but not Marines.”
“I'm the worst of humans, I started drinking yesterday and ain't stopped. After Nam ,yollo trail talk could suck the hide off of a hard bound bible. Get stacked in the corner to hold up your wall flower selves and shut your flush function mouths on this horrorible end of the roll wipe. Yes I was a weather man.
last edited: 6/01/06 8:41:00 PM”
“That uniform is not indigenous to that area, fool.”
“Americans are certainly not immune to human failings and are as capable of brutality as anyone on earth.
Its the U.S. military system and its control of combatants that usually keeps the animal instinct from getting out of control.
I try not to be prejudiced one way or the other.
“Skepticism is a good thing within reason. I get irritated when people equate overt and extreme skepticism (especially when mixed with an unhealthy dose of negativity) with intelligence. They refuse to believe anything but the worst and feel if you arenít as skeptical as they are youíre just plain dumb. The funny thing is when they donít believe anything they think they are smart but when you donít believe THEM youíre considered a dumbass.
Itís a superiority complex of the highest order. This is what leads people to over-rely on the very governmental machine they are skeptical about in the first place. They see the average American as incapable of the very freedoms guaranteed to us. They think we are too dumb to take care of ourselves. And in cases like this they think we are too dumb to discern the truth of a matter for our selves.
The saddest part is that we are only getting one side of this story and what that side is calling truth will be repeated so many times and so loudly that even if the opposite becomes true it wonít matter. These marines will be vilified no matter what. Way to support the troops!”
“I can't say ,we're having an ongoing investigation til after the Nov. elections.”
“These marines will be vilified no matter what.
not by me. If I was a soldier and I saw something move as I walked into a house. It would be shoot first ask questions later. If not you may be dead”
“This might be wanderer ...
"By definition, intermittent explosive disorder involves multiple outbursts that are way out of proportion to the situation."
Look back through this thread and you will see the parallel. Outbursts from wanderer way out of proportion to the situation.
"It is news to a lot of people even who are specialists in mental health services that such a large proportion of the population has these clinically significant anger attacks," Kessler said.
"For a couple of decades, intermittent explosive disorder has been included in the manual psychiatrists use to diagnose mental illness, though with slightly different names and criteria. That has contributed to misunderstanding and underappreciation of the disorder, said Coccaro, a study co-author.
Coccaro said the disorder involves inadequate production or functioning of serotonin, a mood-regulating and behavior-inhibiting brain chemical. Treatment with antidepressants, including those that target serotonin receptors in the brain, is often helpful, along with behavior therapy akin to anger management, Coccaro said."
last edited: 6/05/06 9:39:45 PM”
“Ha! Mental health advice from the insane! I love it!”
“JACKSONVILLE, North Carolina (AP) -- A Marine corporal seen in a video singing about killing members of an Iraqi family says the song was a joke.
"It's a song that I made up and it was nothing more than something supposed to be funny, based off a catchy line of a movie," Cpl. Joshua Belile said in Wednesday's Daily News of Jacksonville.
In a four-minute video called "Hadji Girl," a singer who appears to be a Marine tells a cheering audience about gunning down members of an Iraqi woman's family after they confront him with automatic weapons.
Belile, 23, apologized and said the song was not tied in any way to allegations that Marines killed as many as two dozen unarmed civilians in Haditha last year.
“boys will be boys”
“USA, did you have a bad experience in the military? Did the other soldier-boys pick on you?”
“Hadji Girl. Kinda catchy tune. This is nothing but our fighting men blowing off steam. Do I expect some latte` sucking office wonk in America to understand? Of course not. They are safe and sound in America going about their little worker bee life. Our grunts are the ones who are actually THERE and experiencing what itís like and how best to deal with combat stress.
There is no political correctness in war. It's brutal and uglyu and what it does to those who fight in it is too. This is mild vstress venting. Better they write a crass funny song than wear a necklace of Iraqi ears or something.”
“Charges. Still want to give them the benefit of the doubt, pedxing?
Unpremeditated murder of children is not killing in cold blood?”
“Try to keep your orgasms to only a few, USA.”
“i still give soldiers the benefit of the doubt
these individuals are scum”
“Thank God the actions of a few do not speak for the majority, USA. Otherwise you would give radical leftists everywhere a bad name.
I like it better when you stick to the topic of gardening and lawncare.”
“the jury is still out on certain pump n runners.......”
“Not as cool as the Seals making simultaneous head-shots, but still very cool:
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates ‚ÄĒ U.S. Marine commandos stormed a pirate-held cargo ship off the coast of Somalia on Thursday, reclaiming control and taking nine prisoners without firing a shot in the first such boarding raid by the international antipiracy flotilla, U.S. Navy officials said.
“that was probably just like another training mission for them...a bunch of thug pirates from a 3rd world country are no match for some of the most elite fighters in the world”
“The thugs should be returned to the sea from whence they came. And just to make sure they won't drown you chum the water for a bit first to get some "friends"”
“a bunch of thug pirates from a 3rd world country are no match for some of the most elite fighters in the world - thrifty
The crew of the ship was in a saferoom, too, negating the advantage hostages would have conferred. The pirates were not stupid; they were not about to commit suicide by Marine when they knew they were beat. Few other countries can boast having troops as professionally restrained yet viciously lethal as the US Marines. I am sure the pirates were damn well pleased it was Americans and not the Russians!
last edited: 9/10/10 5:41:04 PM”
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