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“Oops, I forgot the sarcasm font!!”
“LOL MarkO...Sarge, I wonder if the fact that we are fighting the SCUM of the Earth on the other side of the planet rather than waiting till they are here has something to do with it.
I love what a buddy of mine said when a woman asked if it was worth it? (He just returned from his THIRD TOUR (one in Afghan, two in Iraq). He laughed and said,"Well I guess it comes down to would you rather have car bombs and stuff here or there?" This is especially poigniant when you learn that all emergency (Fire EMS and Police are now carrying Mark One nerve agent kits) and for you that think, "Whew, they can help us" The stuff is for US, not you.
DHS is a hoot, mostly political appointments (heck the Director for our area was a BLITHERING IDIOT who probably did the former Mayor). I would like to see what happens if something DOES happen.
As for Terroisim...9/11 foriegn, Murrah Fed Bldg - Home grown, Sniper - Home grown (and apparently inbred), Anthrax -Home Grown....
Am I worried about an attack, Kinda like the weather "Who Cares you gonna have to deal with it anyway." I am more worried about the Sheeple response to it. Will we allow more and more freedoms to disappear becuase MOMMY government said we need to lose them.
I can see a mass killing with a light airplane. Government Response _ ban all private pilots (since it only affects a SMALL minority the Sheeple will shrug go back to watching some dipsnot REALITY show.
Mass shooting - I bet there will be a call to ban personal ownership of firearms.
When are we going to see a law passed that will allow Individuals to protect themselves? In the litigious society we live in, I can see some Good Samaratin interveneing to stop Mohhamed the Sheep humper from triggering a device. In the process Mohhammed gets hurt...then hires JOE S-Bag the Attorney and sues the Good Samartain. I say pass a law protecting us from Civil Liability.”
“Mass shooting - I bet there will be a call to ban personal ownership of firearms.
The antis have learned that's not the best way - it's more likely to be a call to ban ammunition.”
“I can see some Good Samaratin interveneing to stop Mohhamed the Sheep humper from triggering a device
Oooooo, the net nanny's gonna reprimand you!!!!
Oh, I forgot, he likes you....”
“Some of the smallest recipients in the Homeland Security grant program:
Rhode Island: $4.5 million
Wyoming: $4.4 million
South Dakota: $4.4 million
Puerto Rico: $4.3 million
THE DISTRICT: $4.3 million homeland security grant
Although the District is home to the White House, the Capitol, FBI headquarters and many national monuments, it received a smaller state grant than Montana, Hawaii and Utah. Each of them received $4.5 million, as did Rhode Island
Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.), chairman of the Committee on Government Reform, announced yesterday that he will hold a hearing on the grants
A DHS risk assessment sheet for New York said the home of the Statue of Liberty and other landmarks had zero "national monuments and icons. " The assessment also tallied only four banking and finance institutions worth more than $8 billion. Republican Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg's office says there are at least 20
“Adding insult to this injury, Henke's department judged that the nation's capital is a "low-risk" city and that the Statue of Liberty, Brooklyn Bridge and Empire State Building are not worthy of "national icon" status. By contrast, those terrorism magnets of Kansas City and St. Louis -- both by happenstance in Henke's home state of Missouri -- received boosts in funds. Other winners: the horses of Louisville, the cattle of Omaha and five cities in Jeb Bush's Florida.
In this time of torment over big-city terrorism funding, Henke opted to recall her small-town upbringing. "People come to Washington and they forget where they came from and they think all knowledge, all information, all good ideas generate in the marble buildings of Washington, D.C.," she argued. "Guess what? Not true. Not true at all. I'm very fortunate, I come from a very small town in Missouri." She said she keeps a sign in her desk that says "Remember where you came from."
Henke has. St. Louis, not far from her hometown of Moscow Mills, gets a 31 percent boost in counterterrorism money under the new formula.
“Hey, guess what! Michael "Little Nub" Chertoff has determined, in his inimitable wisdom, that NYC has NO national icons!!!!
He determined that New York State (Upstate) has 5. What they are, I haven't a clue. Perhaps, the Red Carpet Inn in Albany. Now, there's a garden spot!
Maybe, our side of Niagra. You know! The sloppy looking side!
Maybe Mt. Marcy. Now, there's a target! That doesn't need protecting! We already have our own Lumberzac standing guard. "You'll get Mt. Marcy when you pry my clingy, muddy toes from its earth," he's been known to say!
Or, maybe David Copperfield has made the Statue of Liberty and the Empire State Building disappear and re-appear upstate...”
“You're doin' a heck of a job, Cherty”
“lol @ the Bear-man!!”
“I thought Lumberzac blew up the Marcy Dam a while back.......WTF??
TNT, oi, oi, oi!!!!”
“I was watching Glen Beck last night and he brought up a good point. If you aren’t happy with the amount of money that is being spent in your area we should contact our state reps and tell them to maybe stop asking for pork barrel spending for things like multi-million dollar bridges that go nowhere to free up some cash for security.”
“Nigal, the writing campaigns that are being put together here locally are numerous since this news broke. So, that point has been addressed to the fullest.
“I do agree with you (gasp!) that NYC and DC are just too high a priority target to get screwed like this. Of course one way to make NYC more secure at zero cost is if Bloomburge lifted the gun ban. LOL!”
“Yeah, it was too blatant and easy, huh? LOL!
None of that skullduggery today though. It's Phriday! :)”
Not to argue, just to ask...
“Since 9/11 how much money has been "Granted" to New York City and the District of Columbia?
Hear me out...I'm not defending the proposed grant locations made, nor the "Formula" used to determine the grant amounts....
I'm just wondering where the most money has been spent to date (and exactly how much), and what other places now need to be addressed...NYC and DC have needs, so do other places....”
“It's all part of the No Major City Left Behind Act. Once we level them, they won't be targets.”
“Big government, why should federal money go to anything others than the ports ,airports and border crossings. Like health care and all the other craps they're not capable of doing.”
“The money is supposed to go primarily for the tools needed to keep our first-responders at the top of their game. Hey, you want to fight a "war on terror," then do it right, correct?
What NYC has done, according to mayor Mike, is spend a lot of our tax money on this cause. What seems to have worked against us is the this "brilliant" reasoning that if we spent some of the money already, then we don't need the help. Bloomberg says that he refuses to leave the city in the lurch and will do whatever it takes to protect this town, no matter what decisions are made in Washington. None of this excuses the fact that Chertoff is screwing us and D.C. , IMO...”
“Yes. we need to secure Teddy Roosevelt NP and Yellowstone is looking mighty weak.
I think Montana is safe. My Zippo made it through DC National Airport but was confiscated on my return trip at Bozeman Airport.
Clearly, DC needs more security.”
“Hey treebeard, it's not personal. Look at New Orleans ...”
“Was that a real Bradford, Pa Zippo or a Sears Zippo??”
“Real Zippo, the #&%!$ers. I think the frikken "rules" for stowed baggage had changed recently. Morons did a great job repacking my pack, too.”
“didja tell Brownie he did a heckuva job?”
“In all fairness, all decimals are off and should take a step to the right. The printed story got it partly right; all decimals are wrong on the first page but are correct on the second page.
Man that's a lotta pork!”
“You never know when some pack of terrorists have trained for 10 years to fly a Piper Cub into the Dairy Queen in East Bejesus, Kentucky, and then what? The president could be reading to third graders and have to fly off somewhere until he figured out what was going on, and then he'd be photographed standing on the rubble of that Dairy Queen with the local volunteer fire company, promising to get the guys who knocked that building down. We'd have to invade Tasmania for a regime change, declare Mission Accomplished, and batten down the hatches.”
“Everyone knows the Statue of Liberty is in New Jersey.”
“It may be a joke but ther pay checks sure are nice, I never have made this kind of easy money ever.”
“How much money has NY already received?
I believe the terrorists are smart enough to be looking somewhere else for their next strike.
I know Shasta Dam in Northern CA is on a list they have found with other terrorists papers.
Perhaps we should give the bad guys some credit with doing their homework. Do you go after an area you have already attacked, against some of the best anti terrorist forces in the world or do you hit us somewhere we are least expecting it?
Perhaps I'm giving the bad guys to much credit.
last edited: 6/02/06 5:46:32 PM”
“REasonable enough, Steve. But, they seem to have this tendency to be a patient lot. They have struck us more than once. The so-called intelligence has supposedly pinpointed several unsuccessful attempts, too. It has to remain as a top priority target to protect, no matter how you add it up.
Now, I'm not opposed to funneling money to these other places. I just can't believe that America, with all the resources we have and with all the money we seem to come up with for whatever "interests" us, that we are unable to expand the DHS budget. That blows my mind. Billions and billions to go to Iraq and we're squabbling over millions here. Drop in the bucket compared to that money being dropped on that godfersaken fiasco overseas...”
“BTW, I believe someone asked how much we're getting? It's over 100 million. It's been slashed by 83 million, a 40% drop...”
“money doesn't buy happiness”
“How often did the IRA hit London? PLO & Jerusalem? Don't terrorists tend to go for the highest profile targets? Maybe the rules have changed recently but I don't think South Dakota is in any danger.
DC and NYC are in no way invulnerable to attack.”
“SARGE.It does pay the bills and do with out it for a month and reflect back just what money does for you.”
“I know. I was just using socialist logic on themselves.”
“I wish they would funnel the money into better intelligence and proper gear for the military. Homeland Security is a joke - a huge waste of resources that could be better applied elsewhere. I think the creation of this department will be one of several solid reasons that Bush Jr will be seen as one of the worst presidents when historians reflect on his record.”
On the Mall, Image of Safety Is Shattered
Robberies Leave Tourists Worried, Police Scrambling
By Petula Dvorak and Michael E. Ruane
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, May 31, 2006; Page A01
The green expanse of the Mall evokes many emotions, but wariness has never been one of them. Over the years, the lack of crime has created an aura of safety that allows joggers and tourists, children and couples to drop their guard and stroll in the day and even at night.
That changed in recent days, when a band of robbers used the elm tree shadows to surprise and attack six tourists walking along Washington's grassy sanctuary under the spell of the stars. It was as if an unspoken agreement had been broken between the underworld and the nation's icons
last edited: 6/05/06 3:23:16 PM”
“If the DHS was doing their job, we wouldn't keep getting attacked by terrorists so much like we have been since it's inception. Stupid Department of Homeland Security!”
“The more I hear and read about the numbers it’s looking like DC and NYC are being a bit uppity about this.”
“Yeah Bear, too bad those poor unarmed people weren't able to effectively defend themselves. It's all DHS's fault you all disarmed the good guys. LOL!”
“Bend over and spread 'em, Nigal. Ley's see how uppity you get. They just slashed 15% of the bio-terrorism funding today. Thrust # 2...”
“For anyone who may not know, the Whitehouse is that little empty circle North of "The Ellipse".
One might think one would be safe where those attacks occured, so close to The House. But to make that "leap" one would have to assume DHS knows what it is doing.”
““Bend over and spread 'em, Nigal. Ley's see how uppity you get. They just slashed 15% of the bio-terrorism funding today. Thrust # 2...”
NYC has received some $500,000,000 since 911. Last year you got $150,000,000 which was a jump from $45,000,000 the year before. The $150 was to make up for the shorter year before. Much of this money was for initial funding to get things up and running.
While homeland security is very important it is also a huge chance to waste money too. My state used it’s funds to replace old mercury thermometers with digital ones.”
“That's what you get for living in Ohio!
Seriously, New York is huge. Let's cut through the BS, because the complexities of protecting a place like this make arguing this point kinda ludicrous. There's a project that was on the table that invests in high-tech license plate readers for our bridges, tunnels, etc. Do you know how many structures like that there are in this town? Hundreds. Costs 81 mill. Part of that is for physical barriers and coordination centers near and around Wall Street, as well as the points of entry I mentioned above. This is the financial center of America. We're the richest country in the world. What kind of dementia tells anyone in their right mind that THIS is where you start cutting back and being conservative with your money? And with all the other waste this gov't indulges in? You've got to be freaking kidding!
And, I'm not saying that it should be pulled from other places. It's needed in other areas. But, for god's sake, look at the death potential here. Any portion of the eight million people in this city(that I know certain folks in this country wouldn't miss, but that's besides the point) are at risk. A subway disaster, ferry attack, tunnel or bridge being detonated, etc. All these have high traffic volumes and enough to wreak severe damage and death tolls. Let's face it. I don't see this as a waste of taxpayer bucks.
Oh, wait, never mind. I forgot, we have no landmarks at risk and nothing worth protecting. I know it's true. I read it in the newspaper! :)”
“Why not just become a truely objective middle man in the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, pull out of our hundreds of military bases in foriegn countries that want nothing to do with us, stop hawking our bull#&%!$ consumerist items on people that don't want them, and in general mind our own borders. Wouldn't that negate any need for a Department of Homeland Security?
I'm sorry, but as heinous and dispicable as the 9/11 terrorist attacks were, we definitely brought them on ourselves. Our meddling throughout the globe over the course of the Cold War created the anti-American sentiment we're feeling the backlash of today. It would have happened to the USSR had they won too.
Either way, these abstract wars our government keeps getting involved with never seem to work, and usually worsen the problem. LBJ's war on poverty created a terrible situation in the ghetto's of America, Reagan's war on drugs created an epidemic drug crisis, and Bush's war on terrorism will probably create... You guessed it, worse and worse terrorist attacks. There's no way out of this. We'll probably be battling terrorism for the next hundred years.”
“"What kind of dementia tells anyone in their right mind that THIS is where you start cutting back and being conservative with your money? And with all the other waste this gov't indulges in? You've got to be freaking kidding!"
Don’t know if this was rhetorical or not but I posted a couple days ago…
“If you aren’t happy with the amount of money that is being spent in your area we should contact our state reps and tell them to maybe stop asking for pork barrel spending for things like multi-million dollar bridges that go nowhere to free up some cash for security.””
“Folks in NYC and DC will be happy to know that Snowshoe resort in West Virginia is putting their homeland security dollars to good use. Skiers are going to be safe from biochemical attack!
From the Pocahontas Times:
Responders to conduct WMD drill at Snowshoe
County, state and federal responders will converge on Snowshoe Mountain Resort to contain a mock biochemical disaster next week.
The exercise will test the ability of various agencies to respond to a biohazard incident and keep it contained.
The Pocahontas County Office of Emergency Services, will coordinate with local law enforcement, Pocahontas Memorial Hospital staff, Pocahontas and Randolph County fire and rescue teams, West Virginia State Police and the 35th Civil Support Team of St. Albans, said Emergency Services Director Melvin Martin.
Martin said he was approached by the Major Jeff Price, of the 35th CST, who said he was interested in making his team more familiar with Pocahontas County and the Snowshoe area.
The civil support teams were established to deploy rapidly to assist local emergency agencies in determining the nature and extent of an attack or incident. The teams also provide expert technical support on WMD response and coordinate requests for additional support from the state and federal government.
The 35th CST will be setting the scenario for next Wednesday's drill, which will begin at 7:30 a.m., according to Andrea Smith, Communications Coordinator for Snowshoe Mountain.
The scenario will begin with the disappearance of a few resort employees, whose spouses call to tell the resort their loved ones never made it home the night before, Smith said.
Snowshoe security workers will find the employees' bodies and, nearby, a makeshift chemical lab, with more casualties turning up, Smith said.
Once the biochemical hazard is discovered, local emergency responders and the CST will swing into action.
"This type of emergency would cause the immediate area to go into a lock-down and call all available local emergency personnel," Smith said.
The CST can get its personnel and equipment — which includes a laboratory truck and communications truck — here and on the ground in one and a half hours, Martin said.
The exercise, which will take place take place near the Shavers Fork Fire and Rescue building, will not disrupt traffic to or from the resort, Martin said.
A preliminary table exercise for all agencies involved was scheduled for May 31.”
“Okay here is the set up.
Last month, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and her senior staff privately met in Washington, D.C., with a select group of Muslim, Arab, and Sikh organizations. Among the mix were three organizations directly associated with an outlawed terrorist entity — the Muslim Brotherhood.
Secretary Napolitano spent an hour and a half briefing them on Department of Homeland Security (DHS) counter-radicalization and anti-terrorist programs. The intensive briefings spanned two days (January 27 and28) and were called by the DHS.
The program requires bringing in Muslim groups as “partners” in a two-way information sharing program.
Walid Phares, director of the Future Terrorism Project at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, criticized the partnership concept:
“Through the so-called ‘partnership’ between the Jihadi-sympathizer networks and U.S. bureaucracies, the U.S. government is invaded by militant groups.” He warned that this policy embraced by the Obama administration “is how American national security policy has been influenced” by Muslim groups, who are duping administration officials.
A former U.S. intelligence officer told PJM:
The “counter-radicalization” program is something that the other side created for us. … It initially started in Britain. The Muslim Brotherhood groups suggested it. We went over there and got it. We thought it was a great idea and now we’re using it. It’s the enemy giving us a way to destroy ourselves.
The Muslim Brotherhood is the ideological foundation for today’s terrorist organizations in the Islamic world. Founded in 1928, it is the oldest Islamic fundamentalist political group in modern times. Originally called the Society of the Muslim Brothers, today it is a hardcore supporter of Hamas and Hezbollah and considered the inspirational “father” of al-Qaeda itself.
LOL..Imagine FDR having a meeting with German Bund Supporters in World War II>>>>”
“Just so I am clear, are you ranting against Muslims in general, or just these Muslims?”
“GEE chili...I would have thought you would have actually READ the article. Napowench is ChATTING in her office with the people who are inspiration fathers of the movement that resulted in the 9/11 tragedy.
OH WAIT I forgot...demanding we kill the enemy is not PC.”
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