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“WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Bob Graham defended his assertion that President Bush's actions in making the case for the war in Iraq reach the standard of an impeachable offense set by Republicans against former President Clinton.
"Clearly, if the standard is now what the House of Representatives did in the impeachment of Bill Clinton, the actions of this president [are] much more serious in terms of dereliction of duty," the Florida Democrat and presidential hopeful said on "Fox News Sunday."
Graham also charged that Bush "knowingly" misled the American people about the reasons for going to war in Iraq -- both by claiming that Iraq was trying to buy uranium in Africa and by withholding information about the length, danger and expense of postwar reconstruction.
"This president failed to tell the American people what he knew about the consequences of military victory in Iraq," Graham said on NBC's "Meet The Press." "He understood what the cost was going to be. He understood the casualties. He understood the duration of time.
"None of that was shared with the American people. And so we went to war, not only on the basis of weapons of mass destruction that we may or may not find, but [we] went to war without the knowledge of what the full consequences would be."”
“Do you ever backpack or talk about backpacking?”
“I'm begining to wonder if this dikhead is Solitary Hiker.”
“Here's another Muther effing republican who should have been impeached. How about a post-mortem impeachment in absentia.”
“WASHINGTON (CNN/AP) -- Former White House counsel John Dean said Sunday there's at least a "shred of evidence" to support a new allegation that President Nixon ordered the Watergate break-in.
The widespread belief is that Nixon was forced to resign because of his role covering up the break-in, but that he didn't order the crime to begin with.
Jeb Stuart Magruder, who was Nixon's deputy campaign director, says he heard the president tell John Mitchell, who was running Nixon's re-election campaign in 1972, to go ahead with a plan to break into the Democratic Party headquarters at the Watergate complex and bug the party chairman's phone.
Magruder, in a PBS documentary set to be broadcast Wednesday and in an Associated Press interview last week, says he was meeting with Mitchell on March 30, 1972, when he heard Nixon tell Mitchell over the phone to go ahead with the plan, the AP reported Sunday.
The break-in took place June 17 of that year.”
“"The widespread belief is that Nixon was forced to resign because of his role covering up the break-in, but that he didn't order the crime to begin with."
The only morons who believe that must be republicans.”
“Just like the widespread propaganda being spread like manure that Bush wasn't aware of the bogus intelligence from the CIA.”
“I think the same person who is Micah is Alaska.”
“Alaska-Here is a little unsolicited advice.
It appears to me that you are trapped in this political mindset and all caught up in what politician is doing what. I personally have enough things to keep me busy that I enjoy with my own life...much less try to keep up with what politician is doing what and then be consumed by it as to make me rant about it madly.
Advice: Don't let politicians rob your joy and get out and go backpacking.
Also, I think we are on a backpacking message board. I believe there is a political message board somewhere. I'll try to find it for you. If not you might want to start one.”
“"Advice: Don't let politicians rob your joy and get out and go backpacking."
I know people like Alaska. If it wasn't one thing making him a miserable bastard it'd be something else.”
“LMAO...wait til bacpac gets a wind of this thread. It will be interesting to see his comments on this.
I'm beginning to think this Alaska is anti-democrat or anti-republican. One of the two. Not sure, really don't care. Maybe he works for one of the campaigns and they pay him to go to different message boards and post political crap.”
“"LMAO...wait til bacpac gets a wind of this thread. It will be interesting to see his comments on this."
He is the master. While a lot of people like to give longwinded replies and state their case endlessly, bacpac can get it all done and leave them stuttering and stamering with one simple line or two. And you know it's always gonna be funny.”
“I pity the poor, miserable, unhappy Alaska, I thought cabin fever was a winter thing!”
“I like a good argument, but not with someone who has already lost his sanity. There is a psychosis going on here that I don't want to be involved with.”
my 2 cents
“Show me an honest politician and Iíll show you a liar.”
“ALASKA. Switch to stainless steel or Titanium pots. I think your brain has absorbed too much aluminum.”
“i think it's violin, and/or bazooka joe....
either way, i'm ignoring the loosah.
let phaed and tilt and violin respond to him. they can have a little misery party....”
“I want to see pictures of these two fuks with their severed genitalia in their mouths. You bet. I want to see their nut sacs on their chins.
Too gross for you? Don't worry I would be more than happy to carve these corpses with a dull boy scout knife."
"There is a psychosis going on here that I don't want to be involved with."
“Cry cry cry. Our president hasn't comitted perjury.”
“Alaska hasn't got the stomach to see two evil men get what's coming to them. Or he's sympathetic to their cause and was saddened by their death, since their anti-American sentiments were in line with his.”
Or, he's a troll.
“Back by popular demand, some insight into Alaska's problems. A long cut and paste to answer a long cut and paste....
The psychology of the internet ďTrollĒ
With the advent of the internet comes many surprising microcosmic views of human nature- One of them, perhaps one of the average internet userís least favorites, is the Troll- A Troll is a person who, like everyone else, adopts a screen name to enter a chat room, bulletin board or forum- But once inside, the common Troll proceeds in the most energetic attempts to get under the other users skins. They will taunt, lie, post vicious statements, post irrelevant material, pick fights, post controversial messages- Anything to infuriate the other users.
Why do people do this? The first thing to consider when asking this question would be, what sort of a person does these things? Trolls did not come into existence with the internet, they existed long before- The internet is simply another outlet for their behaviour. Think of a person with tendencies towards kleptomania- They are compelled to steal, no matter what. Even if such a person were to have plenty of money to buy whatever he or she wanted, they would still be compelled to steal. A parallel could be drawn between the Troll and the elementary school bully, although I personally think this to be inaccurate. Of course there are similarities, however, they are limited. A bully thrives on the reactions of their victims, and without the desired reaction, the bully feels powerless- Rightly so. The same is true of the troll, and while they do use some similar tactics (Belittling comments, personal attacks) this is where the two part ways.
A bully feels the need to assert themselves physically. Often, they are dealing with insecurities of their own- They are typically overweight, less intelligent than others, ugly. These are hard things for a child to deal with, but if they can make other people feel bad, they feel as though they are in fact superior. A bully will threaten, and sometimes even use, physical violence as their tool. This is their vehicle, the ďWay Of The FistĒ, something that they feel they are better than the other children at. Of course, itís been said for eons- The only way to deal with a bully is to stand up to them. As soon as a bully realizes that their intended victim is going to fight back, they will lose their power over that person. There are a couple of major reasons for this- The bully wants to be in charge, unchallenged- Once they are seriously challenged, the game is over. They are looking for rules, and when faced with someone who will stand up to them, they quickly find one. (If I hit this person, they will hit me back.) The other major reason a bully will leave alone a person who fights back is because they donít want to lose their standing with their other peers. If the other children see the bully get hit, they will cheer the underdog and the bully will be ashamed. So, we can see that the bully lives in a world of direct action and consequence- They will attack physically, and take the risks that come along with the territory.
A troll, on the other hand, suffers no consequences for their actions. While the same need for attention and imagined superiority are there, itís easy to see how someone who spends time being an internet troll could never have been a schoolyard bully. The troll is the type of person who will only attack when they are one hundred percent assured of impunity- While most people adopt a screen name in an effort to keep their personal information off the internet, the Troll relishes the fact that they can be another person. Their offline personality is often far from the acidic, ruthless online one- They are timid, physically weak individuals who need to feel strong in some part of their lives. The internet provides them with the opportunity to be someone who affects the lives of others in a negative way. Trolls are the type of person who feels the need to live vicariously through some sort of engine- Before the internet (and todayís highly involved video games) it was Dungeons and Dragons and similar role playing games that would lure this type of personality. Serious deficiencies in a persons life can lead to these needs- More often than not, a very low self esteem is number one on the list. The troll does not think very highly of themselves, which is why they must get their elevating social interaction from the internet. Their personal relationships are usually lacking. A sense of no self worth is also usually prominent- Can you picture someone with a rewarding career trolling message boards? A decent career provides feelings of accomplishment that the troll has to find in other ways. If it were possible to punch someone through the internet, some might say the trolls would never leave their keyboards- This is inaccurate, however. A bully might be able to accept those terms- Punch people online, but face the possibility that someone might punch back- A troll would never log on.”
“yup...that about sums up most of the obnoxious jerks online.
thank you cpl nasty”
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