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“As always, the peace is broken by Pali terrorists.
What do the usual terrorist-sympathizers here have to say about that?
It's happened the same way over and over and over: Terrorists strike, Israel responds, short peace followed by another terrorist strike, Israel responds, ad nauseum. Israel should be allowed to take whatever military actions they deem necessary to put down the Pali terrorists and their supporters (read: 80% of the Pali population)”
“Well? Where's all the terrorist sympathizers? Violin? Phaedrus? Tilt? PedXing?”
“Mutt, bite me.
I've been a strong supporter of Israel in this conflict.”
“Just because I think Sharon is a war criminal who instigated the latest troubles to get into power, doesn't mean I'm a terrorist sympathizer. I think Israel has handled the whole situation badly, and the key question would be are the people of Israel any safer as a result of the aggressive policies of the Israelis?
As for the latest attack, there is a cease fire at the moment, and the people involved need to be brought to justice. I think the best way this could be achieved for all involved is if they are rounded up by the Palestinian authorities. Hopefully the roadmap is gonna work.”
“If Israel has "handled the whole situation badly", it's only because they were hypocritically restrained by the U.N. and the U.S.”
“Purse strings will do that.”
“ok, so why is the UN hypocritical? I can understand why you would say that about the US. But the US is the only country with any real power to influence Israel. So an all-out assault on Palestinians would have been the answer?”
“Sorry Phaed, I incorrectly thought you were a Pali-terrorist sympathizer.”
“yanmiyanami, yes, Israel should have done just that decades ago.”
“And an effemintate one at that.”
“what, and pushed them out of the West Bank?”
“Oh, that's a great idea!
An all-out war could draw Egypt and Syria into it.
Deja vu all over again.”
“ynami, yeah. Jordan occupies around 80% of the land that made up the original Palistinian Mandate. Their beef is with Jordan, not Israel which was just practicing self-defense against arab aggressors (i.e. - Israel was completely justified in taking what little territory they did).”
“Tom, Israel could single-handedly take over the entire Middle East if it wanted to. Egypt and Syria combined have about as much firepower as my local sherriff's office.”
“And what about the body count?”
“bodies will be counted either way.”
“So if the Cubans had seized florida after the botched bay of pigs invasion, then they should be able to keep it as a stalwart against US agression?”
“non-sequitur and yes.”
“ok, I think we differ on a basic premise, that the West Bank is not and shouldn't continue to be part of Israel - you say it should. Israel can go on trying to fight the entire region for this land, spend a huge amount of it's income on defence and continue to see its people die. Or it can do something to stop the cycle of violence and the region can begin to make some progess instead of being trapped in the mire of violence. But for all this to happen there does need to be an end to violence and suicide bombings on the Palestinian side. Both sides shouldn't let a few evil terrorists blow them off the map.”
“Palistinians will never be happy until all Israelis are gone. It won't end with the West Bank.”
“you could switch the names Palestinians and Israelis there and it could still make sense.
I do think there will be some extremists remaining who think that, but hopefully they will become more and more isolated as the benefits of peace are realized.”
“you could switch the names Palestinians and Israelis there and it could still make sense
No, absolutely wrong! The Israelis want peace. They are willing to bargain for peace. Not so with the Palis Stickmanwaking is right - the Palis just want to drive the Jews into the sea.”
“Israel can go on trying to fight the entire region for this land, spend a huge amount of it's income on defence and continue to see its people die. Or it can do something to stop the cycle of violence and the region can begin to make some progess instead of being trapped in the mire of violence
They've tried time and again to do just this, but the Palis don't want peace. They just don't. The Palis support their terrorist bombers who purposely target innocent civilians - women and children.”
“Let's not forget that an Israeli state was created in 1948, not a Palistinian state. Israel should not be forced to give up more land. The Palistinians anger should be toward their fellow Arabs for not wanting them and not integrating them into their countries.”
“There is huge support for bombers - something which is wrong - but what is the main cause for that? Or is it just that they are born Evil? Or are they an oppressed people?
I think that bombing is by far the worse crime, but is the way Palestinians treated right - needing permission to do even the most basic things in life such as go to work, study at college, go out at night.
Basically are there rights and wrongs on both sides? But what is important is for there to be some progress.”
“Or are they an oppressed people?
Well you could make the argument they are now, but it was entirely brought on by themselves. Long ago, they were among the most prosperous Arabs around.
Basically are there rights and wrongs on both sides?
Sure, but it's a matter of degree. The Palis are 1000x worse than the Israelis. When Israel commits atrocities, they have those responsible put through their legal system. Israel owns up to its mistakes, the Palis celebrate their murdering.”
“I think the Israeli Prime Minister himself needs to be put through some form of legal system after some of the events in his past. I would say the Palestinaians have committed most of the worst attrocities in recent times, but you only have to look at the number of deaths on either side to realize things are not quite so clear cut.”
“The only thing terrorist understand is force. They love weakness. I say let Israel unleash its military on Gaza and the West Bank. I'm talking about carpet bombing. For every Israeli killed in a terrorist attack another fighter-bomber takes off with a full belly. Kill their women and children. See how long the Palestinians can take an all out air assault before their people turn on the people who have put them in that situation. If Syria, Jordan and Egypt declare war, kill them too. Problem solved.
Here come the sympathizers”
“For every one of our's, we take ten of your's.
The Nazis did that in Norway, '40-'45 and in France for that matter.”
“Yes, yes... anyone with the temerity to disagree with the Almighty Mutt is a 'terrorist sympathizer,' LOL
You're a joke --- on a par with the Bush fanatics. The object is different but the pathology is the same.
What will be your next proclamation?
"Turn dat whole kuntry inta a sheet a glass," or something equally thought-provoking, I would guess.
Oops! Too slow; Peckerhead beat you to it.”
“Terorist Handbook Page 24: Subsection C: Paragraph 5: "If you hold a big rally complete with parading rockets around, use unarmed or fake rockets.". LOL!
Explosion of rockets at Hamas rally in Gaza kills 15 Palestinians, wounds 80
Gaza Strip (AP) - A pickup truck filled with masked militants and homemade rockets blew up in the middle of a Hamas rally, causing mass panic and killing 15 Palestinians and wounding 80 others.
The blast, apparently caused by the mishandling of explosives, brought a terrified end to one of the last victory rallies by armed militants celebrating
Israel's Gaza pullout before an agreement not to publicly parade weapons is to take effect Saturday night.
"There was smoke all over, and then we saw people in pieces, but we couldn't make out what really happened," said Hazem Abu Rashad, 18
“The world is now a slightly better place.”
“The funniest thing is that Hamas said Israel did it and then Makmud Abas came out and said that, no, Hamasís dumbass did it. Arab Muslim vs. Arab Muslim. Just the way it should be. LOL!”
“And the follow up was that Hamas fired something like 36 rockets into Israel "in retaliation" - to keep up the pretense that it wasn't their screw-up that killed those people.
The Israel retaliated.”
“What a bunch of worthless scumbags.”
“Hamasí spokesmen told reporter Aaron Cline yesterday they were not going to continue with the Kassam rocket attacks, and then turned right around and told the Arabic news that they would be pressing forward as they have been with the rocket attacks. Donít these debases realize we translate this stuff?
Where was Sharon when Hamas was bombing the shlt out of Gush Kitif for months? The only reason Sharon is turning the IDF loose now is because heís got to appear strong against terror with the elections coming up in May. Sharon vs. BB vs. Uzi LandauÖjezus. Itís gonna be pick your favorite loser.”
“NABLUS, West Bank (AP) -- The father of a Palestinian boy shot dead by Israeli soldiers said Monday he believes his son's spirit is alive in "every Israeli" after donating the boy's organs to Israelis waiting for transplants.
Ismail Khatib said he was extremely proud of his decision, even if some corners of Palestinian society might be upset with him.
"No one can tell me what to do," he said. "I feel very good that my son's organs are helping six Israelis. ... I feel that my son has entered the heart of every Israeli."
“Wow - I'm impressed by that man's decision. It is proof that human goodness is widespread even if it is too often obscured by more overtly spectaculat deeds.
My heart goes out to the guy. A real mensch.”
“Yeah, the Palis are only 80% scum of the earth.”
“Hold tight to your hatred and bigotry mutt.”
“Well, a poll some time ago showed aprrox that much support among Palis for the suicide bombers who deliberately targeted women and children and non-combatants.
I'm not surprised you're on the side of the suicide bombers, though. America haters usually hate Israel, too.”
“Seventy-nine percent of people surveyed said they back the revolt in some way and 68 percent said they approved of suicide bombings against Israeli civilians, down slightly from 74 percent in December.
There you go, violin. Your heroes are widely supported by the Pali populace.”
“That poll is at least three years old (about the level of your taunts, coincidentally). I read recently that support is way down, especially after so many people of Palestinian origin were killed in the blasts in Jordan.”
“You think that actually matters now? I don't care how backwaters ignorant a person is, only scum think it's okay to purposely target & kill innocents in horrendous ways for political gain.
What's your excuse, Violin? You don't strike me as being ignorant...”
“Now who's spewing the 3 year old taunts?
(feels good, don't it?)”
“I find attacks against civilians reprehensible.
I reject the notion that only scum disagree with me. Consider the US firebombings in of Tokyo (or perhaps the Dresden bombings, which I know less about), for example. Curtis Lemay's statemnts on the matter are chilling.
last edited: 11/16/05 1:54:00 PM”
“Apples and oranges, pedxing. Engaging the enemy combatants was our sine qua non. Killing women and children are the sine qua non of the suicide bombers - to derail peace talks, no less.”
“These are the types of stories that warm my heart and give me hope. This man obviousely understands that Palis living in Israel have more rights and privilages (even as "oppressed" as they are made out to be)there than they do in any of their neigboring countries.
Sidebar: terrorist attacks are up 600% sense the handing over of Gush Katif. Way to go Sharon.”
“"terrorist attacks are up 600% sense the handing over of Gush Katif."\
Prediction - violin won't touch that with a 10' pole. The hypocritical coward...”
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