how many guns you got?

“Or perhaps.............a fist puppet?

Ooow-ch”

“I didn't realize this was a fuego thread.


I think mutt and mark need to whip 'em out and get it over with so that the rest of us don't have to suffer their big pecker contest any longer. I'm not sure if they're trying to decide who has the biggest dick or who IS the biggest dick.”

“One-shot kill with a .22.
Good shooting, Ma'am!


Campbell County Commonwealth's Attorney Neil Vener won't pursue charges against a woman who shot and killed a Gladys man early on April 15.

"There's no basis for any criminal charges because of the circumstances," Vener said Friday.

Alfred Dews Jr., 35, was killed in the incident on Mohawk Road in the Long Island area of the county. Vener said he was shot one time in the chest area with a bullet from a .22-caliber pistol. The incident happened about 4:30 a.m.

Vener said authorities found the telephone lines had been cut, Dews' truck had been hidden and Dews broke the door down to the house. Vener said part of Dews' bond on an earlier assault and battery had been to stay away from the woman.

The Campbell County Sheriff's Office didn't release the woman's name, describing her as a domestic violence victim.

The prosecutor said Virginia's self-defense law allows a person to use deadly force if, because of circumstances, the person has a reasonable fear of suffering great harm or death.

http://www.wpcva.com/articles/2009/05/11/brookneal/news/news87.txt”

“http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=671_1242144822

Wait for it.”

“Kindof like....     ah, you know.”

“I found and bought several boxes of 20 gauge buck shot today at Wal-Mart. The price wasn't bad.
The shortage must be catching up somewhat.
They also had 45 and 9mm handgun ammo.”

“I had a hard time finding 308 ammo, but it's not anywhere close to deer season right now.”

“The shot gun shells I bought today aren't for deer hunting.”

“Lumber:

http://www.midwayusa.com/browse/BrowseCategories.aspx?tabId=3&categoryId=690&categoryString=653***”

“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4sZ2A04GrY

NICE!”

“http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=804119



Bullet bill draws heavy fire
Strong opposition to proposal to register ammo; 200 attend

By CAROL DeMARE, Staff writer
Click byline for more stories by writer.
First published: Wednesday, May 27, 2009

ALBANY — Some 200 people jammed into the County Legislature chambers Tuesday night, nearly all to send a message to legislators that a proposed law requiring gun shops to register ammunition sales won't stop crime but could halt re-election bids.
"The people of your towns, villages and cities are fed up with politics as usual, taxes and politicians who don't listen ...," said Tom King, president of the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association and an NRA board member, to thunderous applause. "Thank you for pushing a ludicrous gun control issue that has finally helped me rally gun owners."

King estimated there are "35,000 voters in this county who are motivated gun owners."

Local Law A is one of the most controversial pieces of legislation to come before the 39-member legislature in some time. All but a handful of the nearly 50 speakers at the public hearing turned a thumbs down on the measure.

No action was taken on the proposal which is before the legislature's Law Committee and will be voted out of committee before the June 8 meeting of the full body.

Introduced at the March meeting the law would regulate the storage, possession and sale of ammunition and require dealers to record each ammo sale and the caliber, make and model of the firearm for which the ammo purchase was made.

Wanda Willingham, an Albany Democrat and one of the sponsors said before the hearing, that the law would be "a start in regards to saving lives." Other states have similar laws on ammunition licensing, she said.

"We finally stood up and got the nerve to move forward on an issue that affects many communities, and we finally caught up with the rest of the nation," Willingham said.

Democrats Phillip Steck of Colonie and Douglas Bullock of Albany are also sponsors. Steck said the measure is an "effort to enforce an existing law and make sure it's complied with," referring to a state law governing ammunition sales.

Before the hearing, protestors walked with signs in front of the Albany County Courthouse where the legislature chambers are, but they were not allowed to carry the signs into the courthouse.

At the hearing were Albany Common Council President Shawn Morris and Council member Barbara Smith.

Thomas Chandler of Guilderland accused legislators of using the law as a "cheap way to exploit bigotry ... and stereotypes against the Second Amendment community."

Bill Hart of Troy called it a feel-good law. "It's as effective in stopping crime as a stop watch is in stopping time."

Roger Barchitta of Colonie said it's "back door registration. This is not solely about handgun ammunition. It's about ammunition for all different types of weapons."

Carol DeMare can be reached at 454-5431 or by e-mail at cdemare@timesunion.com.




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“It's nice to see people waking up and demanding the government get the phuck out of our lives. Unfortunately John Q. Public generally only cares about rights and privileges they care about. He doesn't care so much about freedoms he doesn't use so he remains silent.

Me, I hate abortion. But I'd take to the streets protesting if it were seriously threatened.”

“Interesting tack.   If people want to collect a couple of hundred guns, no problem.   As they say, it's just a tool ---- it's how it's used, eh?   But if you want to stockpile ammunition for your one-man Apocalype I think the police should know about you.

I believe there are already laws on the books (Federal) restricting how much gunpowder you can stockpile.   I suppose you want to repeal that ----”

“But I'd take to the streets protesting if it were seriously threatened.

Well that's one issue. You've got a LOT of work to do if you're going take an active interest in all "rights and priveleges" battles being fought. I can see it taking up all your free time, if you're actually serious about being an enlightened citizen who's superior to those assclowns only concerned with their own interests.”

“"........superior assclowns only concerned with their own interests."

Hmmmmm...............republicans.”

“When I read one of those posts now I actually hear the voice of Stewie,   LOL

I'll bet the BATF already knows about that one.”

“The bill would be pointless. 1) It's legal in New York State to order ammunition online, you just need proof of age. 2) Albany County is on of the smallest counties in Upstate New York and borders 5 other counties that would not have this law in acted. There are plenty of options for gun owners to buy ammunition elsewhere.

All this bill would do is hurt gun shops in Albany County.”

“BTW, this should have been put on a fuego thread.”

“LOL...I say just send em a strongly worded letter...seems to work for the UN.”

“dang internet connection
last edited: 5/28/09 7:31:38 AM”

“dang internet connection
last edited: 5/28/09 7:32:58 AM”

“Homeowner - Stop!!!!!

Intruder - "What are you going to do?"

Homeowner - BANG! BANG! BANG!


http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news/local/060109_Oakland_Man_Fatally_Shoots_Intruder”

“FYI, Cabelas.com has great bulk winchester ammo prices. 1000 rounds for $99 of FMJ .9mm, only a two week backorder. Cost is different for different types. Hollow point is $119, and on up for caliber change.

Range here I come!”

“.9mm - now that's a small caliber.

10 cents a round is a good deal for FMJ.”

“Homeowner - Stop!!!!!

Intruder - "What are you going to do?"

Homeowner - BANG! BANG! BANG!


http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news/local/060109_Oakland_Man_Fatally_Shoots_Intruder”
Stovie
5:08:57 PM
6/01/09


Meth is a helluva drug.”

“NC has some F-ed up laws on home invasions.

You can shoot while they are breaking in but once they are in you can't shoot.

Makes no sense at all.”

“To many damn yankees moved in? ;-)”

“HPM, where did you get that information. I have never heard the NC laws work that way. I have read where people who have shot at them while they were running away weren't even charged.”

“I got that information from a state certified CCW class three weeks ago.

For someone to simply be in your home unlawfully is not enough to use defensive force. There must also be imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault.

You are not allowed to use defensive force to prevent escape (fleeing)

Seems like a quibble but it is the law.

The reality though is that whether or not a defensive shooter gets charged depends on your local DA.
last edited: 6/02/09 9:09:49 AM”

“Excerpted from the North Carolina, Concealed Carry Handgun Training Manual, Published by the North Carolina Justice Academy, Written by Inst. Steve Johnson:
1) North Carolina Common Law
Use of force to protect a person
(1) Justified Self-Defense

A citizen is legally justified in using deadly force against another only if:
(a) The citizen actually believes deadly force is necessary to prevent an imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault and
(b) The facts and circumstances prompting that belief would cause a person of ordinary firmness to believe deadly force was necessary to prevent an imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault, and
(c) The person using deadly force was not an instigator or aggressor who voluntarily provoked, entered, or continued the conflict leading to deadly force, and
(d) Force used was not excessive - greater than reasonably needed to overcome the threat posed by a hostile aggressor.
(2) Duty To Retreat Before Using Deadly Force Unless and exception such as those listed below applies, a citizen must retreat before using deadly force if retreat is possible.
Exception
A. There is no duty to retreat before using deadly force if the assault threatens imminent death or great bodily harm - a murderous or felonious assault or sexual assault.
Exception
B. There is no duty to retreat before using deadly force if the victim is on his or her own premises, or on his or her business premises, or is at home.
(4) Deadly Force in Defence of Others
A Citizen may intervene and use deadly force in defence of another person when, under the facts and circumstances, it reasonably appeared necessary to save the other person from imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault but only to the extent the other person was entitled to use deadly force in self-defence.
(5) Deadly Force MAY NOT Be Used:
(a) To Stop a Simple Assault.The exact point in time a simple assault becomes deadly is often unclear. Repeated blows to vital body areas, choking, continued beating on a helpless or weakened victim, are some indicators.
(b) Because of the Use of Violent Language § 14-277.1. Communicating threats.
(c) Because You Are a Victim of Past Violence and Fear Future Violence
(d) Because a Trespasser Refuses to Leave
(e) To Arrest a Criminal or to Prevent a Criminal's Escape
b. Use of force to protect property
The law does not permit the use of deadly force solely to protect property, or to prevent theft, or to regain stolen property. An owner CANNOT shoot at a thief - before, during, or after a theft. The same rule prohibits deadly force to prevent injury or vandalism to property. A different rule applies if life is imminently threatened at the same time property is taken. Deadly force used to prevent an armed robbery is force used to protect life, not to protect property.”

“They ran us through a whole gamut of scenarios and talked us through what was legal and illegal.

I'm no expert but it's still very fresh in my mind. (plus I aced the exam) :)
last edited: 6/02/09 9:13:09 AM”

“The citizen actually believes deadly force is necessary to prevent an imminent threat of death

Say "I feared for my life" and get a lawyer.”

“This looks like a fun gun.
Anybody fired one?
Tarus Judge
Fires 410 shotshells or 45 amno

http://www.taurususa.com/whatsnew/revolvers.cfm
last edited: 6/02/09 9:25:43 AM”

“Yeah but if you walk in on some unarmed thief toting out your TV in the dark and you blast him you will get charged for murder no matter how "feared" you might say you were.

It comes down to the old axe of "know your target" and having situational awareness.

I dunno. I hope I never have to make that call.”

“Yeah yeah I know MarkO
I'll shoot my eye out.
lol”

“.....I dunno. I hope I never have to make that call.”
humanpackmule

No kidding, HPM.
last edited: 6/02/09 9:29:30 AM”

“I've got my Johnsonville Slugger...”

“My batting average was never that good.”

“The intruder took a rake to a gun fight, ....that didn't work out so well for him.......”

“Is a "Johnsonville Slugger" a bat made out of a sausage?”

“I wish I could shoot out the tires of the dick that drives by with the bass that shakes the house every night at 11:00.

He drives slow enough for me to put a few holes in the side of his car, except I would need a rifle.”

“Just use a paintball gun and an atomic fireball jawbreaker, WK. Same diameter.”

“How does treebait know all this neat stuff? ;-)”

“HPM used to play tournament paintball. A former co-worker of his was assing around at work, and noticed that the 2-pack atomic fireball jawbreakers were the same diameter as the paintball. He tried it, and put a sizeable dent in a steel dumpster.


Huh, "assing" made it through.
last edited: 6/02/09 12:10:13 PM”

“We've replaced the harmless paintballs in this tournament paintball player's gun with hard atomic fireball jawbreakers.

Let's see if the other team notices. ;-)”

“Oh hells yes they'd notice.”

“Note: Disregard my above statement. That price was for bulk bullets (for reloading). They do still have great bulk ammo prices, but not THAT good. 300 rounds for $99.”

“We've replaced the harmless paintballs in this tournament paintball player's gun with hard atomic fireball jawbreakers.

Let's see if the other team notices. ;-)”
Stovie
12:20:16 PM
6/02/09

Hilarious.”

“Ugh, I need to get my painball gun completely rebuilt.

I still have a CO2 tank from years ago. On a whim I hooked up the 'ol 68 automag and it was leaking air from everywhere.”