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On Thursday I attended the AFT TT outing this weekend, here is the trip report.

Realizing, I was to pumped to sleep, and the drive was only 4 hours, I left thursday night from cleveland. Sadly, dhutch couldn't make it, for some good reasons. Once I arrived, I stayed at the Malibu Inn when I arrived at 1:00 am, and waited til' 7:30 for the others to arrive.

Near 8:30, Pennsyhiker, RichB and SirPete decide to show up. We hit the trail, with SirPete balbbering away about how he thought the Scarlett letter thread was BS on my part. Everybody was on edge, and the hike didn't start well. Like .5 miles into the hike Pennsy, totally ignoring a double balze, led us on a 2,000 feet downhill, when we should have been hiking a ridgeline. Little did we know, we were heading due east, instead of west, so finally RichB and I told him we were backtracking, so we wouldn't be lost.

When we told Pennsy this, he copped an attitude, and said something like "you go ahead and lead then." And I did. Round' about 3:30, we'd hiked 15 miles, in the slippery snow, and were pretty tired, and it was getting dark. Obviously, it was time to hunker down for the night. Fortutitously, we found a nice site with a natural spring to gather drinking water. Then, we set up our tents, with RichB, strangely setting up his tent 2 ft. from mine, with spaces all over a huge pine thicket. Heck, I was at wits end, and getting really annoyed. Everybody on the trip rubbed me, and were rubbing themselves the wrong way.

When camp was finally set up, Pennsy decided to take a piss in the natural spring. Of course I asked him WTF he was doing, and that it was a natural spring, our water source, he was urinating in. Right then, SirPete, was like, who the hell do you think you are, do you think you're Mr. LNT or something? Luckily, I figured he was dehydrated, to I kept my temper down, and let it go. Dirng the rest of the evening, things got much worse.

Sitting by the fire, I decided to offer Pennsy some wine, as a peace offering. Jokingly, I said try not to drink it all, I want some for tommorrow night as well. Oh, about an hour later, 36 oz.s were gone, and I didn't even get a glass. Kneeling by the fire, SirPete kept taunting all of us, saying he hiked bigger and better peaks, basically bragging. Everyone, including RichB, seemed pissed. Surreal is the only word I have for this. On every trip I've been on, everyone has been cool, and I would love to hike with them again. Not with this group, never again!

Years seemed to pass as the night went on, I was ready for bed. On about 9:00, I hit the sack, tripping over Rich's addition on to my tent, and cursing the entire trip. Understandably, I needed to get the hell out of there in the morning.

Morning arrived, and I hightailed it out of there before anyone woke up. Over the day and 1/2 I spent with those guys, I have nothing nice to say. Oddly enough, I had a much better time hiking alone for the 5 miles to my car. Once I arrived near my car, I thought about giving the whole thing another chance, and wondered if I was overreacting to everything. Hell no, I thought. Alas, I trekked to my Malibu, and put my bag in the car.

Having stated all the above, you guys can KMA, hiking with you was a true displeasure.

Adios, hope you're having fun tonight.


BB
Buddha Bear
4:48:52 PM
11/30/02

what the hell?...BB is this a actual post from you? Has TT'ing going to hell in a handbasket?

Not rippin on ya, but this thread could get interesting.....so folks sit back and relax...tt boxing round 2
OPIE
5:10:49 PM
11/30/02

My goodness I was gonna go hikin with these guys around Grovers Mill, New Jersey. Obviously i wont be going now. Oh, i guess i'll see you at TC2. One big party that won't be ruined. Happy trails. All is well in alabama. HMWHC will be represented. Adios.
OPIE
5:31:05 PM
11/30/02

Wow. Is there another side to this story? Are we going to be forced to choose sides with the losers banished from TT forever? Will I get dessert tonight? Stay tuned.....
Dunadan
5:34:03 PM
11/30/02

Crank up the volume and a hit a minor seventh on that Hammond Organ.
Tilt
6:18:43 PM
11/30/02

I'm sure there's another side to this... I've hiked w/ BB before and he has a tendency to open his mouth and say things he shouldn't. He can surely dish it, but not always take it. Guess I'm not too surprised there was some friction.
tarabull
8:46:38 PM
11/30/02

WTF is right
BB, that doesn't sound like the Pennsy and RichB I hiked with last summer.
Geobeet
9:02:34 PM
11/30/02

Is this the same guy who had the run in with koyote13?
2mph
9:24:14 PM
11/30/02

This doesn't sound right. WTF in deed....
laqtis
9:38:39 PM
11/30/02

Even though I'm tired as hell from traveling back from Florida, and am also on pain killers and muscle relaxers (sprained my neck again, not as bad), I can see that this has to be a joke.

If it's not, then I'm doubling my dosage.
Santartex
9:50:29 PM
11/30/02

Hummm.... The jury will now hear the defendants.....
dirtyoldman
2:44:35 AM
12/01/02

I don't believe it.
jjmckernan
5:27:45 AM
12/01/02

Santartex! Say it ain't so!
Corporal Nasty
8:07:25 AM
12/01/02

I also have hiked with 2 of these guys. They were great and i'd hiked with them in a heart beat!!
BB, you sounded annoyed before they even arrived. maybe im missing something. Were you all supposed to meet at 1:00am?
I would like to hear the flip side of the story!
Opie, i dont think its fair that you pass judgment on some of the guys that were there and not go on the planned hike with them. I hope this gets all out in the open and you still go on that trip.!!

So when do we hear all the truths?
mapleleaf
9:05:15 AM
12/01/02

WTF is right! Yes you folks are right to think this is a joke, but the real joke is on you guys here at TT. I mean really the nerve of BB. The funniest part of the whole story is that he made it all up......

The Loser never even showed up!!

We waited for him for a couple of hours on Friday morning but No sign of of the bear so we left without him. I guess this is just his way of trying to make you all feel bad for him. WTF is right! What a bummer, I had thought it would have been nice to meet you (not).

Wait a little while, I just got home to this, wait unit the others get home and see it. Please don't just take my word for it Fellow TT'ers, Pennsy and Richb will tell you all about it. We had a ball, to bad you never showed BB.
sirpeteofmillwork
1:12:29 PM
12/01/02

Why da very noive uv dat guy!!!!
Ban BB!
Geobeet
1:26:58 PM
12/01/02

I feel so used!
Geobeet
1:29:48 PM
12/01/02

Isn't this the same jerk who pretty much started all the "I'm leaving" garbage?
BB, sounds like alcohol and unions have ruined your life.
treebait
1:29:48 PM
12/01/02

????????????????
WTF is absolutely right. I just got home from a wonderful 3 days of hiking with Pete and Rich, and I see this.

BB - we had a great time at Mt Rogers, but are you smokng crack or something? We waited close to 2 hours for you because you said you were definately coming and we should wait if you were a bit late.

???????????????????????????
Pennsy Hiker
1:37:24 PM
12/01/02

BTW - I'm beat but we'll have a real trip report tonight or tomorrow.

I'm smelling troll but it sure looks like Buddha Bear's real handle. What's gotten into that boy?
Pennsy Hiker
1:39:47 PM
12/01/02

He's a clown???

But did Pennsy really piss the spring?

Alcohol and unions, ruin one's life?
We all know how evil unions are......hoohoohahahahaha~~~~~~~~
Tom Terrific
1:45:35 PM
12/01/02

"What's gotten into that boy?"

I'm guessing a little vino...
tarabull
1:46:25 PM
12/01/02

Desi sez
Buddha, you got some splainin to do.
Geobeet
1:53:56 PM
12/01/02

A good LNT'er would stay well hydrated so that his piss wouldn't leave any tell-tale yellow in the snow or THE SPRING.
Tom Terrific
1:54:16 PM
12/01/02

Yeah like it's Sunday and we know your not doing anything better, so where are ya, huh?!
sirpeteofmillwork
2:06:35 PM
12/01/02

he's probably just green with envy
sirpeteofmillwork
2:09:44 PM
12/01/02

I wanna hike with BooBoo Bear if he's bringin' 36 ounces of wine!
Tom Terrific
2:13:11 PM
12/01/02

i found it rather humorous actually. i guess i didn't take it quite as serious. buddha's sense of humor is thoroughly entwined throughout the entire report.

and quit pissin' in the water source, would you pennsy?
baume 66
2:13:48 PM
12/01/02

Maybe we should change Pennsy's name to Pissy Hiker!
Tom Terrific
2:16:57 PM
12/01/02

LOL Tommy T!!
Even if I did pee in the spring, I'm usually fully hydrated so I'm sure it would be pure.

Seriously, I'm baffled at BB for that post. I've never said anything negative about anybody on TT, and I'm trying hard to hold back about this. What happened big guy?
Pennsy Hiker
2:51:57 PM
12/01/02

Dang Pennsy, is that how you purified the water at Kirkridge?
Geobeet
3:08:45 PM
12/01/02

We didn't get sick from drinking that water, did we??
Pennsy Hiker
3:11:17 PM
12/01/02

I think I'm getting sick now, LOL.
Geobeet
3:16:07 PM
12/01/02

you guys don't drink the water at the Kirkridge shelter do ya? didn't you hear about all the people get sick from that place?
sirpeteofmillwork
3:20:09 PM
12/01/02

Pennsy and I drank it without filtering and did not get sick. From the descriptions in the shelter register, it had to be some other problem or a spring further south. They were reporting getting sick as soon as they drank the water.

Also, the water is piped up from below, so the chances of getting a bug in it are slim.
Geobeet
3:24:42 PM
12/01/02

'Course, there are those who will allege that Pennsy and I are not quite right, but those conditions predate drinking the water.
Geobeet
3:26:01 PM
12/01/02

Well I'm stunned! I've hiked with RichB about 10 times and with Pennsy Hiker twice. Too bizarre Buddha. RichB usually likes to park his tent off by himself a little bit whenever possible. Pennsy Hiker might pretend to whiz in the spring, but then he is quite the comedian. But he is a very thoughtful and considerate hiker (not a word, Artex). I haven't met SirPete so I can't say anything except he seems like a serious hiker. Did Buddha actually make everyone wait two hours? I remember he posted a statement saying, "I'll definitely be there, so wait for me."
LyndyS
3:29:43 PM
12/01/02

the guy never even showed up for the hike!
sirpeteofmillwork
3:31:57 PM
12/01/02

he's a liar
sirpeteofmillwork
3:38:27 PM
12/01/02

So if Buddha wasn't on the trip, then he has still never met RichB. If someone was talking about his experiences hiking other mountains, RichB would be listening and asking questions, not getting pissed off like Buddha reported. RichB is fairly easy going and doesn't get angry easily.
LyndyS
3:47:37 PM
12/01/02

There you have it folks. Rich will post and then all will have spoken.
sirpeteofmillwork
3:53:43 PM
12/01/02

My only regret is that on the drive home, I taught Pete how to do change fonts here.
Pennsy Hiker
4:10:07 PM
12/01/02

sucker
sirpeteofmillwork
4:13:20 PM
12/01/02

oh yeah it's out of control
sirpeteofmillwork
4:14:57 PM
12/01/02

oh where oh where has that Buddha bear gone, oh where oh where can he be?
sirpeteofmillwork
4:19:19 PM
12/01/02

I'm taking my ball and going home
sirpeteofmillwork
4:20:58 PM
12/01/02

Oh, so I leave and you gang up on me, I should have expected this #&%!$in #&%!$. I was there allright.

RichB has a Nallo2, and sirpete has a eureka tent. Penssy prolly slept in his own urine, the way he was pissin' everywhere.

The only explanation i have, is after I left, maybe these jokers realized what a bunch of morons they were acting like, and decided to get along.

Better yet, let's see what Pennsy's pics look like when he posts them, how r ya gonna get around that?

BTW - "Piss boy, oh piss boy, thanks, here's a quarter."
Buddha Bear
4:21:42 PM
12/01/02

rich was pretty demure, he just didn't talk to me at all, and set his tent up right on mine, like he was trying to intimidate me or something. what a joke.
Buddha Bear
4:23:29 PM
12/01/02

I believe everything Buddha says. He doesn't lie, ever. I trust him and his version of events totally. I think you all should too.
Sassafras
4:53:32 PM
12/01/02

All I know is that if anybody messes with Pennsy Hiker, they mess with me me as well. Buddha Bear, you're a #&%!$ing ass. Pennsy told me what a complete a$$ you were on the trip.
Santartex
4:59:57 PM
12/01/02

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