Mr and Ms Controversy Pants

“I must say the last few days on TT have really sucked. Sucked bad!!!
All the bickering and argueing over this and that, all the mudslinging, people bad mouth politicians for all the negative junk they say about their opponents and their opponents views on things. And we criticize them for this!!! Aren't some of us the pot who called the kettle black?

I've decided not to publicly have an opinion either way as far as posting it.

Some people I hike with and like are anti-this or pro-this when it comes to vocalizing their opinions about something different from what they think. I plan hiking with ones I haven't met in the future and both kinds are bashing each other.

That's the beauty of where we live. We all have the right to our own opinion. "Opinions are like @$$holes, evreyones got one" so they say.

Don't get all bent out of shape if someone agrees or disagrees with the way you see things.

GUESS WHAT???? The way you see things may be wrong!!! But it may be right!!!

Either way, it doesn't matter. We all came to this site for a common love for backpacking. Not for a bickering match on views of this and that. If you want to bash other people's ideas about the latest pack weight or bash them personally. I would encourage you to go be a politician who argues over such things,.. as a great King once said "This too is MEANINGLESS".

DISCLAIMER: We all have the right to say whatever we want!!!

But please can't we all just get along???????????????”

“Of course we can, if we want to.

Just don't talk about politics, religion, ultralight, dogs, camp fires, guns......”

“It's like asking fish to breath air.”

“Oh, like everyone is going to agree with what you just said? Good luck! :)

I like the bickering that goes on, for the most part. I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion. That's just part of life. But personal attacks are just unnecessary.”

“... Ethnic issues, TC2, trolls, sex, ...”

“Ethnic issues, TC2, trolls, sex, ..."
Geobeet
10:51:41 AM
11/07/02

Don't you just love it....lol”

“I knew there would be controversy about what I just posted. Controversy is fine, just the name -bashing I could live without.”

“Yeah Ewker, especially the posts about Mexican illegal aliens that were not just about Mexican illegal aliens but all illegal aliens, but the Mexicans kept turning up in every post you made.”

“PLEASE, no troll sex.

There are Plenty of trolls already.”

“combat boots.

I think you have a point bbinkley, and it is best illustrated by the conservative vs liberal interaction. Instead of a difference of opinion, it becomes very personalized and soon people are attacking your right to breathe your share of air.

If people stick to the issues, but leave out personal attacks, life is much better.”

“Geo, I guess we should just open up all of our borders and let everyone in. I think you would like that.”

“Lee said that I looked like Kevin Spacy.



J/K, but it goes to show you, you should never jump to conclusions”

“The thing that peeves me is the personal hurtful things some of the a$$holes seem to so enjoy slinging at others.”

“Once everyone agrees that dogs don't belong in the backcountry, we'll all get along famously.

LNT = LDH.”

“I hate to tell you bro, but the borders are virtually open anyway, legal, illegal, hunted down or not. That is, and has been for as long as I can remember, a fact of life. If all the money we spend on border security isn't enough to do the job, maybe we're doing something wrong. Maybe we should be focusing on helping Mexico develop its economy so Mexicans don't have to come across the border. I think that is part of what Bush and Fox are after. Other than that, people are dying attempting to cross the border and being victimized by thugs. We use lights, sensors, patrols, aircraft, radar, infrared, and all kinds of esoteric devices and it's still not enough. And if we did seal off the border, there are boats, like the Haitian group that tried to come ashore in Florida.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. The results won't change as long as economic conditions working for sub-minimal wage in the US are preferable alternatives to staying home.”

“bblinkly, Even though I may agrue with someone on here about politics, ethnic issues, sex, drugs and rock and roll doesn't mean I still wouldn't go bping with them even Geo :-)”

“Wow, Ewker, you really must have a big heart. :)”

“Yes, once everyone thinks exactly like you, everything will be hunky dory, LOL”

“That last one was for the dogboy, <GRIN>”

“And if we did seal off the border, there are boats, like the Haitian group that tried to come ashore in Florida.

Geobeet
11:11:00 AM
11/07/02

Should they be allowed to stay or should they be sent back?”

“LOVE= my dog peeing on Micah's tent”

“THAT's the spirit!”

“j/k micah.........everyone has an opinion

tilt...everyone doesn't have to think the same...i would hope not anyway.”

“"Opinions are like @$$holes, evreyones got one"


Yeah, but even Sarebelle would have to agree that some smell worse then others.
thats all we are b!tching about.”

“Sarcasm, Binkley! LOL

Our friend the animal lover wants everyone to agree with HIM.... doncha know.”

“His views of LNT=LDH.....I have my own opinion of what LDH means.

Love = my dog peeing on Micah's tent”

“don't start getting personal, boys!”

“Under present law they are sent back, just as Mexicans who get caught are sent back. But that does not mean they stay "back."

The point remains, if we want to stop illegal aliens (from wherever), we have to work on the root problem, not just the effect of the root problem. Saying it is not our problem and sealing off the borders is not working because it's just not possible to seal a border that long. That was the point. The coast is a border too, and there are bays and bayous along much of the Gulf Coast.

If we can't keep illegal drugs out of the country with all the money we spend on air and sea patrols, then we can't keep illegal aliens out either. History and experience bears that out.

So working with Mexico to help boost it's economy is indeed a way we might be able to solve the problem of illegal aliens from Mexico. Now it might work and it might not work, but sealing borders is not working. Sending them back is not working. Shoot, some border guards know these people on a first-name basis.

The fact that the Haitians were sent back will not resolve that situation either, and there is a lot more sea to navigate from Haiti to Florida than there is from Mexico to Texas or Louisiana. Unfortunately, there is no government in Haiti we can work with. There is in Mexico.”

“Having lived in San Diego for 34 years, I can attest to the fact the our border with Mexico is a sieve. It is physically impossible to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country. Furthermore, at least when I lived there, had the INS been able to plug the leaks at the border then San Diego's hospitality industry would have ceased to exist; that's hotels, restaurants, everything. The fact is, the 'wetbacks' are dirt poor and will take jobs that no one else wants, and work damn hard at them.
INS would gather them up, bus them to a dentention facility at the border, send them home and they'd be back the next day or two. I am not in favor of a blanket amnesty for these people. After all, we stole part of their country fair and square. ;-) But we need to work something out to give both countries some relief.”

“Wait a second! Didn't the Mexicans already get discussed on another thread? Move on! This thread's about how we all like to argue with each other! :)”

“And another thing. With the large influx of Mexicans and other Latinos into Alabama, Huntsville is FINALLY get some really good Mexican restaurants.








:D”

“bbinkley... have you passed your initiation test here yet?? lol

You spend your time in the trenches, son, before you earn the right to start inflammatory threads.

>8-O Misconduct!! Go to the penalty box now!! lol”

“thanks smiley girl....but calm down........deep breaths.......become one with yourself.......imagine your are on the lake...you can hear the waves......you can feel the wind.......deeper breaths....now doesn't that feel better.”

“Better yet, son, you report to that pushup thread.... and come back when you're up to snuff.

LOL!!

(actually I was thinking this thread might be about me and stikmon... but we LIKE our controversy pants.. doesn't everyone?? LOL)”

“Can't say; I've never SEEN your controversy pants...;-)”

“Yes sir ...I mean mam, Drill Instructor LIZ Hartmann.”

“Correction FG, we didn't steal anything. The lands of CA, AZ, NV, CO, UT and NM were ceded to the US by the Mexican government for $15M through the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 2/1848, thus ending the Mexican American War. Southern AZ & NM was purchased from Mexico for $10M through the Gadsden purchase.

I'm not saying it was right, but at least we paid for it. How much did Mexico pay Spain and how much did Spain the Native Americans for the lands?”

“Jeeeeeeeeeeeez, not HOCKEY FANS AGAIN!”

“Oh, you Savage you. Technically of course, you're correct. ;-)”

“lol, yep, we paid them $15M for what we got, and agreed to not go ahead and annex the rest of Mexico...lol....”

“and our pants...errrrrrr...on second thought...carry on all you muggles...argue away...the Dark Lord loves it when there is disention among his enemies...Father Goose,,,the more I read of you...the more I believe you attempts at humor are really the behavior of a muggle in the employ of the Dark Lord...you shall be punished appropriately.

Lizs...which pants are you wearing today?”

“About my favorite three topics of controversy........

Well, I went home with the waitress
The way I always do
How was I to know
She was with the Russians, too

I was gambling in Havana
I took a little risk
Send lawyers, guns and money
Dad, get me out of this

I'm the innocent bystander
Somehow I got stuck
Between the rock and the hard place
And I'm down on my luck
And I'm down on my luck
And I'm down on my luck

Now I'm hiding in Honduras
I'm a desperate man
Send lawyers, guns and money
The #&%!$ has hit the fan

Send lawyers, guns and money...”

“The guns are to get the money away from the lawyers.”

“. The lands of CA, AZ, NV, CO, UT and NM


gee and i thought Native Americans lived there first...


silly me for thinking that.

Hay i heard the Brooklyn Bridge might get tolls, so I guess that means it will be up for sale soon. any bids?”

“Maple --

I think it is hilarious that you could have thought that I thought that YOU looked like kevin Spacey . . . I mean . . .Kevvy doesn't even have red hair!!”

“Hey, lets have a little respect here, the Mexicans did defeat the french, so they deserve some props. They have also made other great contributions to the USA:

1. Julio Ceasar Chavez
2. Jimmy Smits
3. Taco Bell
4. Warm Blankets
5. Menuedo
6. Ridding the french from the Americas
7. The Chili Pepper
8. tequila
9. Corona
10. Selma Hyek”

“I guess 3 out of 10 aint bad.”

“Yeah,,,,,,# 7 and #8 are the reasons I go to Mexico!”

“Dude --
Menduo is from Puerto Rico, already part of the US

Selma Hayek is lebanese (isn't she) . . .and NO that doesn't mean that she gets off on other women (although . . .there is NOTHING wrong with that)”

“I knew I'd expose a Meneudo Fan. Stone him, stone Lee!”