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What the hell is this?
“Why do I have to hear that I am a fake???And that I have not gone as many bag nights that I have?Oh ya and the scotch thing if I want to bring my good scotch out on a trip I will do so.
Oh ya I here that you people say that I am too much and that I am a spaz and that I am too much and that I am too intense for you people??????Oh and I am too much into hiking??????You god dam right I am I have been hiking for 11 years and I have tons of trails under my belt.
Oh ya and you have to say you don't know how Evergreen can handle me or put up with me who the hell are you to say or ask things like that when you don't even know what the hell is going on with us.
If you think you are so bad and you know who you are any time you want to go backpacking I can and will hike you into the ground!
And better yet if you are going to talk about someone SAY TO MY FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“Hey CMB, Did I miss something? I realize that I haven't been able to read much of TT over the last couple of days, but I didn't realize there was any negativity thrown your way (besides the silly trolls.)
Don't get me wrong... You're a lot to handle, but not "too much." In fact, it's your enthusiasm that makes you so likeable!”
“Some things were said about me that I have found out and I am very pissed off about it.
Thank you about what you said I have no problem with you I like you too and I hope you can go hiking with me again real soon.
“I don't even know you or Evergreen enough to talk about you. Can I still hike with you?”
“ugh oh, now you're really gonna find out why they call him crazy.”
“Look if there is something that I have to say about someone I tell it to there face not behind there back while they are sleeping in there tent.
I am sorry but that is just the way I feel.
I can't beleave some of the things that were said about me?????
My god I have never done anything wrong to anyone and here people are saying things behind my back when they don't even know WTF they are talking about.
I am very sorry but to the people that I have hiked with in the past this is the first time something like this has ever happned to me.
I have a saying if you don't like me for who I am then you have just used up 90% of your time now why don'y you use the other 10% and go FUV# YOURSLEF!!!!!!!
“Ya you can Wolfeyes!
“damb dude, you're getting a little heavy here, and I thought you didn't give a fruck bout what other people think!
hey wolfeyes, thought you were hikin with me! lol!”
“Ya if they tell it to my face!
But behind my back that is a good way to start a war!
“oh yea, now you really did it.”
“Letrs have some clarity. Have you taken your med? Lighten up, boy”
“No I have not and I have been drinking!
I smell anger
“CMB, your thread title addresses Michigan folks specifically. This means we can exclude out of staters who attended the trip which leaves...
Did I forget anyone?
Since you are about getting things out in the open, who said what? Call the offending individuals out (heck it could be me???)
I just know most of the Michigan contingent pretty durn well. We definetely are a rowdy bunch who enjoys a LOT (TONS AND TONS) of teasing between us and that can easily be taken outta context.
Relax and shake it off, if folks dont like you the so be it. Lots of people dislike me and I in turn dislike others, its a big world. I wouldnt sweat stuff like this.”
“Dude, I thought you were a blast! I'd hike with you again anytime. As far as anybody saying anything, I haven't heard anyone say anything.
What exactly was said?”
“Call me and I will tell you all about it dude.Man you are the bomb and I would hike with you anytime.
Mt/Rodgres dude 15-17 right?
“OK Birch I will take you advice!
I guess I am over reacting right?
“I would step back, take a breath. Put the scotch away and give folks a chance to at least defend what you heard (which I may add is second hand info) you got folks emails. Send em a note to try to see whats up.”
“This dude's really gone off the deep end.”
“they were just starting to get him calmed down. why'd ya have to go and do that?”
“Look I if I made some people mad I am sorry but for me to hear what I herd it just made mad.Becuase I have never said anything bad about any TT'ers and for people to say things about me is just wrong.
I just want to say that I still call TT home and I am not going to bring this up any more!
“Crazy Mike - Cheer up! There will always be people in this world who don't agree with what you do or who you are. Look at the positives, there are many people including myself who are better people for having met you. Your enthusiasm rules!”
“Thank you Island Girl you are a very good friend and I hope I get to backpack you again real soon.
You are so cool and I love your hats!
“crazy mike. I think your crazy,but i would hike with you again.”
“Same here BB you can carry the most weight I have ever seen!
The thumb sucker rumor was my fault.
“Sorry dude!!! it slipped out.”
“Mike, you'll never get the truth unless you confront whoever said whatever, supposedly. There's no sense in pointing fingers at a whole group if one person bummed you out. Email them and see what's up...it might just be a misunderstanding.”
“You said it was one of the michiganers.
you said you were cool with
so that would leave:
So,was it one of them?
Just food for thought.”
“Just in time for Halloween too!”
“Oh and i don't recall hearing any of them say anything about you or anybody else.”
“Must have been me, I guess. Now I'm trying to think if I said anything offensive on the trip. Oh yeah, that's right, everything I said was offensive.
If it was me that you are speaking of, my email is firstname.lastname@example.org, you can speak with me there, or pillage me on this thread. Your choice.
BTW - Birch trees SUCK monkey bone!”
“I had no idea anything was said. It was good to finally meet you, Mike, and I wish I had had more of a chance to hang out at camp with you (cause I prolly wouln't be able to keep up with you hiking!!). Hopefully, this has all been cleared up by now. If not, and its still bothering you, don't let it "fester". :)”
“Must have been some interesting campfire conversation last weekend at Manistee River.”
“Ah. I think Sass has stumbled upon some truth. Second hand information can be dangerous, CMB!”
“Anybody have any idea what this is all about?”
“Mike: I sure hope it ain't me you're talking about. I can't remember saying anything negative or that could even remotely be construed as negative, but you never know how people hear things.
I enjoy your company. I hoped to hike together more.
Why did it take 2 weeks for this to come out?”
“No one but CMB and either Coyote13 or Doug or Wolfeyes. I doubt Doug had anything to say about anything.
I don't know why anyone would say anything that might hurt someone else's feelings purposely....I hope it's all a misunderstanding. It bothers me that someone might repeat something said about someone, possibly out of context, esp. if it would hurt them. I can see no positive reason for it and if that's all one can come up with to talk about, that's lame. =(
I'm sorry CM that you heard that someone said something about you... I really think whatever it was has been blown up, out of proportion. No one that I know of, had any gripe with you.
I, personnally, said that I didn't know how Evergreen kept up with you, never "Put up" with you. I was remarking on your energy level, not a bad thing at all. Who would ever say you don't hike as much as you do? That's stupid.
I think the Mountaineers are experiencing sabotage!!!”
“"I think the Mountaineers are experiencing sabotage"....
Me thinks it's Al Queda. They must be pullng out all the stops now!”
“Letting things "fester" is not a good thing. You have to talk things out CMB. Everyone on the trip seems pretty approachable.”
Let Dogs Lie!
“I am going to let sleeping dogs lie.
I am not going to bring this up any more I just want to let eveyone know that I am very easy guy to get along with and I have never said anything about anyone on this message board or for that matter enywhere else therefore I am saying sorry if I caused a problem here on TT becuase I love to post on TT and alot of good things has happned to me becuase of TT I met Evergreen and all the other cool TT'ers that I have got to go backpacking with so with that said I am no longer going to let anything get to me about what people think of me becuase after all they are just words and words cannot hurt you.
“I don't think that's fair, CMB.
You accused someone in the MM'ers of doing something wrong, but supplied no details.
All of the people there are great folks, and most of them very good friends of mine.
You need to explain and give whoever the chance to defend themself. This may all be a mistake or a communication breakdown.”
“I now have reason to bleave that this is a communiucation brakedown.
Ok here is the deal someone had told me that the following people say the things that I have said in the first post.
Now if these things were not said or the person that told me things had herd them wrong then I am very sorry for saying it.But if they are true next time tell me to my face thats all I ask.
I don't want to make people in Michigan hate me I just want to know if some one or anyone said those things about me.
By the way I found out about this last night.
“I agree, Le Subtil. I would like to let the fire burn out, but this has got me going a little, seeing as though I have not been eliminated from "the list". We all have emails and I second the suggestion that CMB communicate via email to the person or people about what the dilly-O is. This can be handled in an adult way.”
“Well, that's the first step. Now email each one of us and let us know who told you what. I would like to get things cleared up. I'd be very interested in know what I supposedly (sp?) said about you.”
“Mike, you just can't accuse someone of slandering you and then name names and then just let it go. That's not fair at all. I've emailed you and I hope I get a response.”
“Wow, so much stuff since this morning...
I guess since names are named why not complete the list and name who told you of these alleged statements. I am not on "THE LIST" however my wife and two of my VERY good friends are. So I am gonna throw in my two cents.
Believing what you heard without any fact checking,then without confronting them (you seem to value a straight forward approach when it comes to you but dont afford others the same),follow up this horrible sundae with the cherry...posting this all on TT.
Gots to say that I am disappointed at best. Cant see how a resolution can occur without an opportunity to state ones defense.
I sense an ever growing alienation, a growing lack of trust. And shortened lists of those to invite on future trips (those who must ask themselves if they are on the list prolly know the answer deep down already). I dont say this as some sort of punishment cause I/we are regular average folks. I say because my time is precious and is not to be sqaundered on those who make secret calls and emails to either 1) stir stuff up
2) befriend someone
3) or whatever it is the individual(s) is/are motivated by.
I have my suppositions on who is the "deep throat" in this TT watergate...Unfortunately my family and friends get the roles of Nixon and G Gordon Liddy...”
I'll admit, prior to meeting you, I said something to some of the folks at the campfire on Thrusday night. It was along the lines of "Crazy Mike sounds intense, I wonder if he'll annoy me" or something like that. It wasn't meant to slander you in anyway, I have asked myself that question about several people on TT before I met them, and, just as was the case after meeting you, I my fears were put to rest. I like people over the top, prolly cause I am too.
Also, I know folks prolly say #&%!$ about me, and deservedly so, I post some whacked out #&%!$ on here, and deserve it. I'm sure 99% of them think differently after meeting me.
As for saying anything about Evergreen, that is complete BS. I didn't say crap about her, or you and her, or whatever.
I can also assure you that the other folks around the fire... laqutis, sass, and such didn't say a damned malicious thing about you or Evergreen, they don't have it in them. If somebody said something about you scotch, who gives a #&%!$, I'm sure people razz me about packin' wine, and I gave bbinkley crap about packin' in a cooler.
The more I type, the more ridiculous this is, and, at this point, the only reason I'm posting this is so Evergreen won't feel bad about this whole farce. She's a nice chick, and we all enjoyed her company. I for one, was happy to see another TT hook-up.
CMB, if you don't want to hike with me, that's cool, I'm not gonna get my panties in a bunch.
And, whoever fed Mike this BS that is totally out of context can go F themselves, and I'm sure you'll let me know who you are, so I can say that to your face.
Boy, this high school #&%!$ rules, let's go egg a house or turf a lawn.”
“I was going to ignore this thread as it seems totally childish. But I have to admit, Shane said some really mean things and is very sorry 8)
CMB - We joked, we laughed and everyone got along. If something was said against you it HAD to have been in a sarcastic, joking tone. We MMers are ALL into that. Fun. Glad this does not mean that Evergreen and you will not pack with us again. I am looking forward to some out of state experiences that would include you. Take your pills ;)”
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