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going poleless?
hey, any of you guys ever try using your tent minus the poles? I have, once, because i forgot the poles. With some rope and tree branches i was able to make-do for the weekend. Some of the lighter weight tents that i've been considering buying (like the MSR Zoid or SD light year) look to be easy enuff to set up with a few choice branches. So, besides by accident, have any of you tried this as a weight reduction technique? I'm thinking about purchasing a Golite Gust pack, but I'm really gonna have to pare down the weight to use this ultralight pack, and i'd prefer a tent over a tarp or bivy sack.
SloppyJoe
1:55:51 PM
8/26/02

i have a silshelter
that sets up on trekking poles. a stick would work if i had no poles. i could probly even rig it up with just a few stakes and rope it over a tree somehow.
J0SH
4:04:58 PM
8/26/02

I have a tent that sets up with trekking poles, and would probably be ok with sticks. Its not as good in a serious wind as a tent with its own poles would be, but it saves like 12 ounces of weight.
brooks
5:03:09 PM
8/26/02

12 ounces!!!
man, do some extra push ups and squats if 12 ounces is gonna break your back...lol...12 ounces.
stikmon
8:42:45 PM
8/26/02

The older poles were longer and if you lashed them to your pack with the points down,when you set on a rock your poles would be,finally ,up your stick.
uncliff
9:19:54 PM
8/26/02

you wait till the first big wind and storm
then you'll be wanting that tent...cut weight another way...safety and security is worth 12 lousy ounces.
stikmon
9:22:07 PM
8/26/02

You could just grow really long hair all over your body, become highly acclimated to the varying weather conditions, and save a lot of weight.
Dunadan
9:59:10 PM
8/26/02

my tarp sets up very tight
with guy lines i think it should be able to handle some pretty good wind. i would think the stakes would pull out of the ground before anything else.
J0SH
10:56:48 PM
8/26/02

stikmon, 12 ounces doesnt count?
that's like 1/4 of your body weight dude. those ounces matter.
J0SH
10:57:30 PM
8/26/02

No argument here about the weight. Sorry if the answer about the poles was a bit short. It workes well for three season and summer use, its just not as secure as something like a room with a view, but that tent weighs 3.5 times as much. Its a hoop design, essentially, but probably not quite as strong as a one piece pole hoop design.
brooks
11:13:29 PM
8/26/02

the secret to saving weight is to...
poop more.
stikmon
7:44:01 PM
8/28/02

only you
every time i think you can't outdo yourself. i guess i should learn to take more advice from a dog, too.
J0SH
7:51:33 PM
8/28/02

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