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“Anybody give a rat's patoot?”
well maybe...depends on what it is!
“oh i thought this was a
stiff drink thread...
“Dunno about the All-Stiff game, but I'll catch at least some of the MLB All-STAR game tonight. Baseball is cool!”
“Baseball is cool!
Yeah, that's my problem. Baseball is cool, but strike talk, stiffs like Rolen who doesn't belong on the team, contraction, Bud Selig, Owners, crybaby players, ... I wanna see some baseball dammit! Baseball with chin music and take-out slides and guys taking long leads and catchers who can throw. Undiluted baseball.”
“I'm with you there!”
“What I want to know, is if the Tigers trade Robert Fick before the game tonight, who else would they choose to represent the team? I'm not sure they have anyone with a winning record or batting average about .250.
I'm looking forward to the strike. I hope it's long. And I hope it actually forces the players into submission. I can't watch baseball anymore. It's a fraud.”
“if they go on strike then i will boycot the games until the get there #&%!$ together!!!”
“Wildflower, isn't that a bit redundant? LOL!”
“Sorry; I'm already on strike.
Watched the Philly Charge beat the NY Power Sunday night. Perfectly enjoyable game. They did all the fundamentals well, moving the ball up the wing, crossing it, taking a shot when they could. They played hard (if women bruise easily, these gals should be mostly black and blue by now, otherwise they don't bruise all that easily).
And you know they're not making bazillions a year.
It was a pleasure to watch somebody want to play and have fun doing it.
And neither team let up at any time, gave any quarter, asked for any, or cried.”
“That's why I like going to minor league games.. it's just great baseball with players hoping to one day get the call up. They aren't as corrupted at this stage! Plus, the fan atmosphere is great, especially with smaller town teams.. good stuff.”
“Agreed Artex, except on one point: minor leaguers already have big heads on them, even at single A. There is already a disconnect between their performance and their perception of themselves. I know that to be true.”
“"fan atmosphere is great"
well ill take ny fans anyday of the week. unless they are drinking then YOU can have them oh he!! you can have them anyway..
id like to go to a minor game i have heard they are great”
“What Tilt said...”
“Major league baseball=overpaid cry babies.”
“My Indians suck poop.”
“Yeah... Let's hear it for Single-A ball and Thirsty Thursdays!”
“Hey Buddha, send your Indians off to Violin. He can use them! Probably my Phillies, too, now that you mention it. We can get Violin's pack cleaned up in no time!”
“did anyone hear about the promotion game (im not sure what state) but it was pretty cool. it went like this
it was called "nobody game" they didnt let anyone in the stadium untill the 5th inning when it became offical. but they put up ladders all around the stadium. thyey wanted to get the least attendent game. well they did it it now stands at "0"
it was a cute idea”
“The defunct Lehigh Valley Black Diamonds of the Independent Atlantic League played home games in Quakertown one year and I think they had a game where no paying customers showed up, but that was just because they stunk so much.”
“I love the Minor League games here! Billings Mustangs (Cincinnati Reds), Pioneer League!
Beer Batter-- 4 beers (16oz) for $6.00!!”
i met tug macgraw once does that count?”
“I took his picture once.”
“Tug McGraw rocks! I met Buck O'Niel once, and talked to him for about 1/2 hour. He's the best!”
“Buck O'Neil, I am impressed. Agree he's the best. He looks like anybody in the world could talk to him about baseball and be regaled with story after story about "our baseball."
What a total gentleman!
And the Tugger is also a gentleman. Snapped his pix at an autograph session and he talked to all the people while he signed. A regular, standup guy. What you see is what you get.”
“i met him while skiing in the poconos many years ago. he had a blonde sitting on his lap. it was prue stardom.”
Scott Rolen is getting a bum rap by the press. He is a quality player, though his bat has been cold. Maybe the cart is before the horse, but if I were in his shoes, I'd be anxious to get out of this town too. The Phillies Org is Cheap, thats with a capital C. Ever since Lance Parrish proved to be a bust, they've been shy to spend bucks. Of course, big payrolls don't equal championships, look at the Flyers. (Well, look at the Yankees, too) I'd want Rolen on my squad.”
“He was offered $140 million at the start of the season and turned it down. He spent the winter telling the organization how to run the team and spent the first half of the season hitting into inning-ending double plays, popping up and otherwise killing rallies.
He gets upset when the fans boo him? Shut up and hit, Meat!
I emailed the team defending him when Dallas Green criticized him last year.
He WAS the centerpiece of the team when he told them they should pay a free agent. He WAS the future of the team, and they were building the team from the farm system (and doing a heck of a job at it too).
If he'd gone out this season and play up to his capabilities, I'd still be on his side. But half a season is more than a slump; it's a major reason why the team is where it's at.
How in the world he got named to the All Star team is a mystery to me. Some fans just don't pay much attention to what's going on.
There were lots of players in the old days who played for teams that treated them like crap, and for fans who booed them lustily day after day. They didn't dive; they went out and played their butts off every game. Mike Schmidt played the hot corner here under pretty much the same circumstances throughout his career.
Hey, players have good games and players have bad games, but half a season for a premier player is not a slump, it's a catastrophe. In 1948 he'd have been shipped off to Peoria to get his stroke back. Frankly, that's where he belongs right now.
I've watched this guy night after night after night come up with runners on base and not get the job done or even look like he wants to get the job done, swinging at first pitches, bad pitches, griping at umps on strikes over the plate.
He's a head case, and that's the best I can say for the guy!
Right now I'd rather take the compensation pick.
He should have been the team leader, but it looks like he's abdicated in favor of Pat Burrell.”
“I'm sure the players are getting "pumped up" for the game.”
I put $50 down on a tie. I'm a frickin millionaire.
I think they should have decided it on penalty kicks.”
“The kicks are still to come. The fans will get kicked in the teeth. The penalty was loving the game while morons killed it.”
“... but what could have been a clubhouse riff has been exploited by the writers for the Daily News and Inkie. Seperating passion for winning from p1ssing and moaning is oft difficult. True, pointing the finger around the clubhouse without first looking at one's self, is a sure way to get on the bad side of management and teammates.
Hey, what ever happened to that left fielder phenom they couldn't sign a couple of years ago. Is he playing well elsewhere?
I stopped questioning pro sports trades and moves after the Phillies traded Lonnie Smith for a tastycake. Then it was "discovered" he had a "nose-candy" problem. No wonder he made those spectacular gaffs in the outfield!”
“basball can kiss my cute little A$$$$$$$$$ ! ! !”
“so what about our bets? i think someone owes me money”
“they cant go on strike until after Aug 2nd
i have tickets Aug 1”
“WF: Mid-August is the projected time. You should be safe.
Wild Chlid: Clubhouse rift was going on for awhile before it was reported. Reporters report what is. Should they have covered it up? Don't blame the messenger.
JD Droop wouldn't sign with the Phils, spent a season in the Northern League instead and signed with the Cards for less money than the Phils had offered. That's less! So I don't see your point.
The rift is between players who are intense (Rollins and Burrell) and players who are "laid back" (Lee and Rolen). Once the labor issue is settled, the laid back will be departing en masse.
The Phils made a commitment some years ago to build from within. They are doing that, and that is why they should not and have not changed gears. Rolen was supposed to be a major part of that plan. He turned down $140 million, which I have a hard time understanding why anybody would see that offer as not being a financial commitment by the team toward winning. Having done that, he turns around and calls a press conference in spring training to castigate management for not committing to winning. Does he live in a bubble? Is he for real?
Then he goes out and goes 0 for May and has a .250 first half and thinks it's no big deal. Give me a break.
Wild Thing, when he blew a save, at least had the guts to stand up before the press and say, "I sucked!"
There is no personal responsibility for a loss on this team. Nobody says, "I sucked!" Instead, it's "Another loss, no big deal. Maybe we'll win tomorrow."
Changes are coming for this club and changes are due. When players take a few million dollars to play for a season, they should also take the personal responsibility to do their jobs and do them right. I'm not even sure some of these guys are alive.
Rolen went 0 for 3 in the All Stiffs Game; Rollins 2 for 2. Says it all! Just like it's been all season so far.”
An All Star conversation with a 6 year old-
“"What teams are playing?"
"It's the All Star game, the best players from both leagues are playing."
"But what teams are playing?"
"Its the best players from the National League and the American League."
"but who is playing?"
One team is the best players from the one league and the other team is the best players from the other league."
with frustration "I don't understand. Which teams are playing?"
"Who should I root for?"
"I don't know, which teams to you like?"
"They are in the National League."
"I don't understand."
"The National League."
"I'm going to call Brent and see who he is rooting for."
"We're rooting for the National League."”
“Baseball lost me years ago although I still check in on my beloved Red Sox. All-Star games are a joke anyway. Plus, the Tour De France is on OLN at night. Why in the hell would anyone watch baseball?”
“I'm burned out on bike racing too. Covered the First Union, nee CoreStates for 10 years up here in Philly. Too much!”
“as for baseball... I've been to maybe 5 games since the last strike...
If the Angels are still doing well in 2 weeks then THERE WILL BE A STRIKE! If they are start to blow then the season will continue
this is my prediction”
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