Who believes in Global Warming?

“I completely understand how by not admitting you were right or wrong, it could be concluded that you did not claim he was wrong. I got that.

The reality I have a problem with is that you answered in a way as if to say by following the text you provide, he could find the answer to his question in the affirmative.

You can deny that was your intent all day long, I don't care. People with common sense know that was your intent.

You did not want to admit you were not giving factual information, so instead of admitting that you tried to lead him on a wild goose chase.

You've been caught. Use logical fallacy terminology all day long if you want to, I don't care. You've been exposed for the fraud you are.

Perhaps you get it now?

... perhaps not.”

“You know I see both of the arguments and my only question is..."WHAT IF YOU ARE WRONG?"

What does it matter? There is about 50 years worth of sustainable oil supply left. For that reason alone we should be moving towards alternative energy not to mention all of the political benefits of not being bent over the oil haybale by the Middle East. Time to make some of that money back from the Chinese (or pay off our trillions of dollars of debt) after they have a billion cars and nothing to run them on.”

“Hey Q?

Where exactly can I find the location of the cat on the moon?

In this log-book you say?


You didn't disagree with my premise that there is a cat on the moon, yet you tried to lead me to a source which does not answer the question as asked.

It's called a dodge.”

“What does it matter? There is about 50 years worth of sustainable oil supply left.

That's funny. 25 years ago I was taught there is 20 years left.

Maybe we got different scientists in there investigating this stuff?”

“"You know I see both of the arguments and my only question is..."WHAT IF YOU ARE WRONG?"


What if they are wrong about candles causing fire in homes?

What if they are wrong about the seatbelt laws?

What if they are wrong about nuclear waste being bad for you?

What if they are wrong about the Earth being "round"?

What if they are wrong about gravity?

What if they are wrong about terrorism?

What if they are wrong about how planes fly in the air?

What if

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“There's so much I could say but I have said plenty on this subject and am just waiting for the effects to unfold.

That was a nice storm on the Oregon and Washington coasts last night.”

“"You've been caught. Use logical fallacy terminology all day long if you want to, I don't care. You've been exposed for the fraud you are."


Thank you for you concession. As to your last invalid claim; I feel confident that the gallery can make up their own minds. However, if you feel the need that your point is so shallow, please feel free to post again about.”

“"“Hey Q?

Where exactly can I find the location of the cat on the moon?

In this log-book you say?


You didn't disagree with my premise that there is a cat on the moon, yet you tried to lead me to a source which does not answer the question as asked.

It's called a dodge."


It called trying to claw something out when you've gotten your ass handed to you all day by me.

Don't get too dizzy, trollie!


FLMAO!”

“"There's so much I could say but I have said plenty on this subject and am just waiting for the effects to unfold."

I've read your past posts on the issue and found them to be most interesting.”

“I will not add to what I've said regarding what I have said. There is plenty of proof for "the gallery" as you say, to make their minds if you were trying to spin.

I will comment on a new issue by pointing out this fact that you've resorted to twisting my words into claiming I made a concession, which I obviously did not, and your childish "debate??" technique of saying "if you post anything else, you're admitting your point is shallow".

That's idiotic. I'll also let the "gallery" decide for themselves. The difference is I know I'm right regardless of what others think. You obviously need their approval to justify your stance. Another sad commentary about you.
last edited: 12/15/06 1:49:53 PM”

“Gallery decides ... Moonglo looks foolish.”

“WOW I am betting Laqtose (the Intolerent) got rejected for the Debate team manager job...

What if they are wrong about candles causing fire in homes?

UH huh...well we have pretty much HARD CORE evidence about this ...you do know that? Besides if we use care with the Candles how does that DESTROY anything?

What if they are wrong about the seatbelt laws?

WHAT DOES IT COST? Hey the rates of injury and death are DOCUMENTED to be less if you are locked in.

What if they are wrong about the Earth being "round"?

LOL...wow...so you were stoned in kindergarten History class? Laqtose the INTOLERANT, once again if we were REALLY WRONG what is the damage done?

What if they are wrong about gravity?

ONCE AGAIN WHO DOES IT HARM? What is the bad in believing in Gravity?


What if they are wrong about terrorism?
Then we are missing 3000 people and the Fire Department New York is missing 200+ firefighters for nothing.

What if they are wrong about how planes fly in the air?

UM gee once again we have proof...but what IF we discovered it was MAGIC that held the aircraft up? Well WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN DAMAGED BY BELIEVING IN IT

Each of these is symptomatic of a life spent in pursuit of academica...they are slothful and ridiculous...Each one differs from the GLOBAL WARMING hysteria by the fact that NONE, ZIP, ZERO, NADA requires that I radically change my lifestyle to please someone else.

the Global warming crap is th pursuit of BIGGER and STRONGER government. It is the typical assault on SUCCESS becuase the people leading the assault are unwilling to take the time and go with the WORK to be successful. Rather than taking the chances and accetping the failures to eventually try for success they would rather ask MOMMY government to control the successful people so they (life's failures and leeches) won't feel so bad.”

“I can see you all believe in thermometer acceleration rather that gobal WARming.
last edited: 12/15/06 2:39:00 PM”

“Sale I am not saying there is not Climate Change....there probably is, since there has been in the past. What I am saying is that the entire gist of the Global Warming crowd (VIA the Kyoto crap) is that it is rather suspicious that the only nations that have to control their societies are the truly free and First World Societies.”

“"It called trying to claw something out when you've gotten your ass handed to you all day by me." - laqtis

laqtis, that happens to sarglo every time he gets into a discussion/argument on here. He does one of three things - he either whips out a personal attack, or claims he is being personally attacked, or he starts debating the inane minutiae so that you end up getting so far off topic he makes you forget what you were really debating. Like today.

And no, this isn't a personal attack sarglo.

sarglo - it doesn't matter if it takes 20 or 100 years to run out of oil. The bottom line is we are running out of it and will be completely out of soon. 100 years is still soon.

XL - why can you understand that its very easy to cut our emissions and not change our standard of living? I've done it personally. I've chopped 25% off my electric bill over the last year by making small improvements that haven't changed my standard of living in any way - I get just as much hot water as before, the house his just as warm (or cool), etc. We can do the same as a country.”

“Tech I don't think you have a realistic grasp of the demands of the Global Crowd. Have you checked out the Kyoto Agreement? it was not a simple matter of changing to Flourescent bulbs etc it was a direct attempt to get us to PAY the rest of the world for our actions.

You have the third world scuzballs demanding we pay them for us being successful. You know the guys like Kofi and Company who have raped their nations demanding we now pay them because we have been successful.

Now if you want to change what you do GO for it. JUST don't go out and tell me how I have to live.”

“"laqtis, that happens to sarglo every time he gets into a discussion/argument on here. He does one of three things - he either whips out a personal attack, or claims he is being personally attacked, or he starts debating the inane minutiae so that you end up getting so far off topic he makes you forget what you were really debating. Like today"

I agree. The only reason I even spent the time with him was that I had absolutely nothing else to do today for once. I haven't been able to play "wack a troll" in a while.

"XL - why can you understand that its very easy to cut our emissions and not change our standard of living?"


Perhaps XL does not see anything wrong with empowering foreign and smaller countries over the United States?”

“WOW..so that is what passes for logic in college now...we cut our productivity and lifestyle or the third world countries WILL be empowered?

So if you want to win the race, slow down to a stroll or the other guys WILL pass you?

Laqtose....um I am glad you are going in a profession where you are working on really dead people.....cuts down on the malpractice lawsuits.”

“If Global Warming is happenning and all of its worst predictions come to be, what good is to blame it on ourselves?”

“LOL, I've done the very same thing in the past, laqtis! Its fun.”

“XL - Its about either cutting our emissions or paying the other member countries in a market system if we don't. Since cutting our emissions would also cut our use of fossil fuels (especially those coming from OPEC), it would actually improve our position against the "third world scuzballs". A double plus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol”

“And you keep getting stuck on "cutting emissions = lost productivity and loss of lifestyle". I just proved to you with my personal example that you are wrong.”

“"WOW..so that is what passes for logic in college now...we cut our productivity and lifestyle or the third world countries WILL be empowered?"

False assumption. Not cutting back on fossil fuels empowers countries like Saudia Arabia, Iran and Venezuela over the United States.

Cut off the supply, or justr limit it and we are hurting.”

“"Laqtose....um I am glad you are going in a profession where you are working on really dead people.....cuts down on the malpractice lawsuits."


Another false assumption. As I have stated to you a few times in the past, my major is Anthropology; however, I do not intend on "working on really dead people".

Perhaps you overlooked that.”

“LOL....GOOD LOGIC...Incredible (as in unbelieveable)”

“Well yeah XL. We should tell you how to live your life if its screwing up the lives of other e.g. driving a big SUV with crap gas mileage and emissions messes with MY life. Since you are apparently unwilling to do it voluntarily, then I guess we'll have to impose some restrictions that get you there for the betterment of everyone. Yeah. I want those controls in place.”

“"LOL....GOOD LOGIC...Incredible (as in unbelieveable)”
XL400236
5:12:34 PM
12/15/06"


Are you trying to make point or something?”

“No, he's wandering pointlessly in the dark hoping all this global warming crap will just blow over. Like maybe in a Cat 6 hurricane like the world's never seen before... induced by global warming, of course.”

“I wonder how much conservation would occur if you folks would quit these arguments and spend less time on your computers. For example you could turn your computers off and go outside and rake those leaves!”

“"I wonder how much conservation would occur if you folks would quit these arguments and spend less time on your computers. For example you could turn your computers off and go outside and rake those leaves!"


lmao!

Does it count that mine have been raked for over a month now? :-0”

“Why rake up all that great nitrogen. Decomposition: the natural rake. LOL.”

“I agree. I rake mine right into my compost pile. It's cool how a big pile of stuff gets reduced down to great soil in just one winter.”

“Yeah. I have a low point in my backyard and I just keep piling the leaves up and hope to fill it in eventually.”

“I rake mine too. I got it done early. I also compost, but won't compost the leaves b/c there is too much reintroduction of weeds from where the leaves lay. AND, I spend lots of time on the computer, just like you hypocrites who are destroying the environment AS you preach to save it.”

“"laqtis, that happens to sarglo every time he gets into a discussion/argument on here. He does one of three things - he either whips out a personal attack,

Not true. I've only done that when somebody uses a personal attack first.

or claims he is being personally attacked,

If the shoe fits ... your point being?

or he starts debating the inane minutiae so that you end up getting so far off topic he makes you forget what you were really debating. Like today"

I actually INSIST we stay ON topic. That's my M.O. That's such a moronic statement, I don't know what to say. Anybody who reads my posts knows I ask over and over to stay ON topic. A very foolish statement.

(PS - I assume you're quoting somebody. I don't know who, but whoever it is can eat compost - talking about me like that. I obviously haven't talked about you like that b/c I can't even read your posts, so find a new hobby and start discussing the topics instead of discussing me. Whoever it is certainly is a hypocrite.)
last edited: 12/15/06 5:37:08 PM”

“This Nascar Science class is a bit much.”

“I was not worried about the leaves. It's the generation and distribution of all the hot air in here that is contributing to the Global Warming!”

“I believe in Global Santa. Or Warming Claus. Whichever one brings the presents.”

“.....you guys need to stop obsessing over me.....really.

;)”

“"the post was to noncon and not you. He should be the one to decide what action, if any, in discourse should be taken about the post.”
laqtis
2:34:37 PM
12/15/06


The punishment is this: Q must sing "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus" while driving an SUV to cut down a Christmas tree.”

“Ha!”

“"The punishment is this: Q must sing "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus" while driving an SUV to cut down a Christmas tree."

I'm not familiar with that one; perhaps you if you hum a few bars, I might be able to join in. ;-)
last edited: 12/16/06 12:06:13 AM”

“Theres one called "I saw daddy kissing santa claus" as well....



Global warming is still debatable but reducing the level of pollution and toxic waste we dump in the enviroment makes good sense anyway as does reducing our usage of oil.”

“Sorry I missed the fun, OKAY LACTOSE et al...the reason I oppose this hysteria, it starts out as >>."OOOH LETS SAVE THE PLANET VOLUNTARILY" we have the self serving ribbon wearing, the plant a tree in the middle of the highway (so it will die) then we get the nose of the camel under the tent and we start getting...

"IF YOU DON"T PLAY OUR WAY VE VILL FINE YOU UNT VE VILL MEK JU VANT TO ...."

Like

Swansea Wales

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/south_west/6058952.stm

One piece of junk mail....WHOOP TIE DOO...these are the same wackos who want multiple killers to be UNDERSTOOD and LOVED and CARED FOR....

Socialists have always worked incrementally, you start with voluntary stuff until you can get enough control to FORCE stuff down people's throats.

So now lets see...SUV's(THE BIG BAD cars)....why does someone get one...hmm..BECAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD IT MAYBE???? It is called Freedom (check it out some time)

Lactose...I grew up in the real cold war period, and I saw how creeping incrementalisim destroys freedoms. Global warming hysteria is just the next tool in the Socialist text book.

Now here is a neat plan, if Global Warming is so DANG GONNA HAPPEN...lets eliminate all funding for the unnecessary stuff, Art, Museums etc hey they were privately funded for thousands of years. We can put that money into saving the planet...OOPS forgot the Government FREEMONEY CROWD wouldn't like that.

You are so duplicitious”

“XL-what about stop funding snake pit occupations. How many can you count?”

“"...I can't even read your posts, so find a new hobby and start discussing the topics instead of discussing me." - moonglo


Too funny on two points! You quoted an entire post of mine just before you said that. Hmm, kind of hard to quote and respond to my posts if you can't read them.

Item 2: you LOVE to make the discussion about YOU. So why can't we? You are so funny.”

“I am a believer...my daffodils are popping up!!!! It is supposed to be 70 today!!!”

“Yesterday was almost t-shirt weather around my place. Made working in my attic very nice. I'm adding a foot of insulation everywhere right now. Maybe it won't be needed in another decade?”

“Snake Pit occupations? What the heck does Olivia de Havilland's work have to do with this?

I find Enviro Wackos as no different than the Ultra Religious of any other religion (and it is a RELIGION gang). If you do not believe what they do, you are doomed to die and suffer. Their leaders as a rule are the most hypocritical (Paul Ehrlich with the Redwood house, ALGORE driving SUV's...heck most of the wackos go to their protests in SUV's) and you eventually find out that unless you become a mindless robot to them you are "A SINNER AND DOOMED".”